[Digestion] EM Effective Microorganisms and AD

[Richard L Vetter]

Paul....your comments are right on.   I spent a number of years in ruminant nutrition and along with others in research, tried to manipulate the rumen micro flora with specific bacteria.  Yes, the microbial population could be altered by extreme ration adjustments, but, the survival/significant effect of a specific microbe or yeast was nil.  
 
Out of curiosity, have you made the acquaintance of Prof. Ian Plimmer.....author of "Heaven and Earth--global warming and the missing science?  In my opinion, both sides of the global warming issue need to read his historical insights and gain a perspective of climate change.
 
I have been trying to recall if we have met at some conference or event.  Anyway, your insights are valuable, especially to some of those within the group who are fairly novice!!
 
One last comment.  Do you know if the very large swine operation [290,000 standing pigs] (Singapore owners, I think) outside of Corawa has installed an anaerobic system?  At the time,   I worked on feasibility study for the operation about 8 years ago, there was a potential ownership change.
 
Cheers and G'day    Rich Vetter

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From: Paul Harris <paul.harris at adelaide.edu.au>
To: digestion at lists.bioenergylists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Digestion] EM Effective Microorganisms and AD


G'day Wayne,

As has been commented elsewhere any attempt to use "designer" microbes 
in an anaerobic digester is likely to be swamped by the microbial 
ecosystem being fed to the digester unless the feed is sterile/sterilised.

My attitude (almost certainly not shared by all group members, but I 
hope we can agree to differ!) is that nature has sorted out a system 
over thousands of years and we are not likely to make it hugely better 
by a bit of fiddling. It is a bit like the argument between artificial 
and organic fertilisers - organic has a lot of micreonutrients missing 
from synthetic formulas and similarly EM may not have the synergies 
needed for AD.

Happy digesting,

HOOROO
Mr Paul Harris
Visitor to The University of Adelaide

On 30/10/2013 5:59 AM, Wayne Zschech wrote:
> G'day all!
>
> Does anyone have any experience on how AD can be used effectively with EM? Are there any possibly synergies? E.g. The EM bokashi leachate goes off if not used with in a day or so.  Could an AD reactor be of any use? Etc.
>
> Blessings,
> Wayne
>
> Blessings,
> Wayne
>
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