[Digestion] Safe Transportation of Low Pressure Biomethane for Social Gatherings

Tue Jun 10 01:23:53 CDT 2014

Hi All,

The folk related to biogas to biomethane is not totally storied. We have 
invested a lot in engineering integrated "wet columns" for both  H2S 
treatment (bio trapping) and "water lines" for CO2 scrubbing 
(greenhouses and algal cultivation) in ordre to generate additionnal 
revenues which will compensate the low financial costs and few running 
costs of these treatment equipments. A pilot plant is under-way  and we 
shall thereby verify (or not) that the positive perspectives of our 
economic model are more than virtual.
Let me just say that considering the dramatic increase in demands of 
biopesticids and specific fast growing energetic or feedstock biomass 
there is a ground to develop such technologies. Some practical answers 
in the forthcoming months, regarding biogas treatment thus opening more 
ways to biomethane uses and transportation.
Cheers

Jean-Luc Sallustro, Managing Partner
e.venture Group
Bénarès, Rivière des Anguilles
Ile Maurice
Tel (230) 54 44 40 00
LD (230) 54 44 40 01 Mob (230) 57 29 16 26 Fax (230) 626 23 54

Le 10/06/2014 10:06, Alexander Eaton a écrit :
>
> I agree with Kyle. We also make biogas bladders for transport, and you 
> could but about two + hours of cooking gas is a relatively small 
> space.  The gas flows out really well with just a small counter weight.
>
> I also think the effort to scrub the gas will be too expensive and too 
> much effort for the overall gain.  Finally, competing with US natural 
> gas would be really hard as it is some of the cheapest energy in the 
> world.  Rural households outside of that grid may be interested.
>
> Good luck, and keep us posted.
>
> A
>
> On Jun 10, 2014 12:49 AM, "Kyle Schutter" <kyle at takamotobiogas.com 
> <mailto:kyle at takamotobiogas.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Jacob,
>
>     Sounds interesting! I hope the economics work out in the US
>     though. In Kenya we have the advantage that we can sell our biogas
>     for about 4 times the price of natural gas in the US, kJ per kJ.
>
>     We have a supplier called Q-energy, based in Uganda, manufacturing
>     in China that makes small bags that are meant for transporting
>     gas. I would talk with them. I don't see much trouble in getting
>     the gas out, we just put a piece of plywood  and rock on top of a
>     bag and all of the gas comes out
>
>     But why do you want to scrub it? Sounds like a lot of work for not
>     much benefit. Maybe I am missing something.
>
>     Best wishes,
>     ?
>
>     Kyle Schutter
>     Founder and Managing Director
>     Takamoto Biogas
>     +254 703113383 <tel:%2B254%20703113383>
>     kyleschutter (skype)
>     www.takamotobiogas.com <http://www.takamotobiogas.com>
>
>
>     On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jacob Douenias
>     <jdouenias at gmail.com <mailto:jdouenias at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         I am a researcher and entrepreneur at Carnegie Mellon
>         University and I am working on how to share the knowledge and
>         benefits of simple AD systems with Americans.
>
>         My team has been investigating the possibility of converting
>         commercial food waste to biogas in a low-tech 250 gallon
>         digester, and then scrubbing that biogas ourselves into
>         biomethane.
>
>         We want to hold events or cook-outs where local chefs could
>         cook great food using biomethane.
>
>         To do this in our area the best way to share this biomethane
>         with others is to drive it to a local gathering.
>
>         What do you all think the safest way to go about transporting
>         this biomethane on the road would be? If we were to invest in
>         a low-cost biogas inflatable (ie. PVC) and house this bag
>         inside of a large plastic enclosure would this be relatively
>         safe?
>
>         We want to share this technology and its benefits with others!
>
>         Can you help us figure this problem out?
>
>         Best wishes,
>
>         -- Jake Douenias
>
>         /http://thebiogenousproject.org//
>
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