[Gasification] Was: DIY GtL, Now: the odd box and the house lighting

[Luke Gardner]

Pete,
The current prototype will run a 4kw onan, if I get 2.5 kw out of it I will be happy.  I have went to great measure to build in such a way to retain and reuse otherwise "waste heat" and to facilitate complete automation.  The last thing I want is another labor or babysitting job.   I will be building My dream house in a few years and I plan on full integration.  I have oversized the reactor purpously so it can  generate gas for heat production (hydronic) and IC operation simultaniously as need be.
how deep the rabit hole goes as far as cost?    I expect at least 10 grand hard cost, said and done.  It just depends on how nice and trouble free a guy wants to make it.
I currently burn about 7 chords of wood in an Iron woodstove a year for heat, and spend about 2 grand a year for my power.  Its allot of work making 7 chords of firewood, at bare minimum it gets handled 4 times to make it to the stove.  
If I could heat my house buying cheap wood chips and in the meanwhile offset my power bill, I would be thrilled. meanwhile I would have liberated a bunch of time that I would rather spend tinkering with systems than on the dull end of a chainsaw,axe and weelborrow. 
This isn't for everyone, I have loads of time into research, years,  and have a full fledge fab shop at home, and have spent decades contorting metal, the last block of it in this prototype pursuit.  Whats my time worth?  
At the current energy costs the endevor doesn't make sense.  Call it an Insurance policy and it makes sense.  when is PPP? where does the path lead after that? If I'm successful I wont care. I own 60 acres of wooded lowland.
never try never do
Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pete&Sheri 
  To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:24 PM
  Subject: [Gasification] Was: DIY GtL, Now: the odd box and the house lighting


  My guess is that it was not hydrogen, rather acetylene.

  Pete Stanaitis
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  Luke Gardner wrote:

    <snip> 
    ---and remove this very odd metal box located outdoors, but under a large overhang of the attached mechanical wing.
    3. remove all of these sconce like lamps used for lighting throughout the place.

    <snip> 
    Me being of curious nature asked around how did these lamps work?
    no one knew...  until I asked this local old duffer running a concrete crew, he explained that they were gas lamps, when I inquired where they got the "gas" he pointed to the odd box that we were removing, he answered "from that hydrogen generator"  At which point my boss started chewing ass about my lack of work being accomplished.

    20+ years later my memory is washed clean of any of the particulars of the plumbing and whatnot, and I find myself building a gasifier for grid tied power production, with ambitions of waste heat capture for home heating, and fancy the idea of capture and storage for cooking, lighting, and even small scale GTL for personal use.
  How big is your intended grid tied power producer going to be and how much do you think it will cost by the time you have it tied to the grid?







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