[Gasification] Complex issue analysis

[linvent at aol.com]

Dear Alex,
     In any complex analysis there needs to be a weighing factor 
assigned to each variable and then evaluated with this weight. Of 
course, any objection can be raised, but how valid is it? There are 
lots of folks in this world who have no real contribution to society 
and simply object to someone else doing something. They can't stand to 
see it. A lot of public hearings are witch hunts with someone in charge 
who knows the difference.
     Dust, road access, truck traffic, site particulate generation are 
all factors which are considered in at least an air permit for a 
facility. All of this is usually contemplated in the air emission 
permitting process and there is no magic in it, just complex rules 
which are created to define what the limits to a project are. The 
method of creating these rules and their completeness cannot be set 
aside by a group which thinks it has a better way. This actually is a 
pre-emption of federal regulations set forth for environmental 
standards and is inherently stupid and probably unconstitutional. An 
agency which sets up it's own environmental regulations without due 
process of setting standards, having hearings, etc. is not allowed 
under most State laws and certainly Federal. A competent court would 
have no trouble setting their actions aside.
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
President
Thermogenics Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex English <english at kingston.net>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
<gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Emissions fines

Tom,

I spent some time with the Thurston County Moratorium link. I waded
through the presentations then  turned of the tv sound on Hockey Fight
in Canada and listened to the audio from the very civil public hearings
on the moratorium. There was a comment that the ratio of those
for-and-against the moratorium on "biomass" was  about 70-1. That sound
about right. Non loggers and farmers to loggers and farmers. Can't do
math to those who can. Uninformed to informed.

  How unfair, simplistic and cynical of me. I love trees and clean low
CO2 air too.

Perhaps they know at a deeper level that as a fossil/nuke society we 
are
sinners and bioenergy talk is just a weak kneed genuflect towards the
cross of sustainability and then back to work. We are going to heat our
bricks and mortar,( or plastic tunnels :) one way or another, no
sweaters required.

To be fairer, many just thought the issue was complex and needed the
extra time for more analysis. They quoted the Mass study on the biomass
CO2  pulse, the lower efficiencies of electrical power generation from
biomass, the concerns about PM 2.5, problems with dust at McNeil in
Vermont, diesel truck emissions, and on. There are thoughtful responses
to all points but inevitably they entail a cost/benefit analysis that
provides fuel to both sides of the debate.

Can we successfully weigh distant benefits with local costs? Is there
any real way to weigh the raising one pollutant level against the
lowering of another?

It isn't getting any easier is it?

Alex





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On 2/19/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Miles wrote:

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