[Gasification] A small literature review re: syngas

Luke Gardner lgardner at wwest.net
Wed Jan 26 23:06:59 CST 2011


kevin,
thank you, for citing, I stopped at the first clear source I thought to be reliable, I now understand the confusion, and am left with a confused understanding. 
 the sources you cited seem to carry credentials one even states that it can mean not just one or the other but either.
I just wonder which part of the elephant Greg was discovering in December?  Ha!
com-on laugh with me now,, no harm intended.
I'm fond of low grade hydrogen gas, I think producer gas as seemingly unrelated as it is,,,, is unanimously safe. throw a btu content on the end for those who care and call it good.
Luke
 

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  Dear Luke
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    kevin,
    I posted earlier on this , its pretty tough to argue with a dictionary,  

    # I did a Google on "Syngas Definition" and here is what I got:
    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ldt&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&defl=en&q=define:Syngas&sa=X&ei=rJpATcCcOYjrgQe60J26BA&ved=0CBgQkAE

    # Note that the various definitions vary somewhat, depending on their source. See also
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

    if this info is wrong please anyone call it out and site your source 

    # My source for the Definitions I provided for consideration is me; I made them up. I do think that the definitions I proposed for consideration will enable a disinterested party to clearly tell if a sample of gas is Woodgas (or Wood Gas), Pyrolysis Gas, or Syngas (Either Synthesis Gas or Synthetic Gas)

    first below, you will see a definition of syn- that i pasted

    notice that "syngas" is coincidentally used as an example of how the prefix syn can be properly used in our language,  syn in front of gas as one word means synthetic gas, not synthesis gas.

    I could care less either way, I just like clarification. this seems very clear to me no matter how many peolpe are misusing this term.

    second you will see a definition of synthetic that i pasted,  the list of synonyms made me chuckle.
    pretty clear wood gas can be used as synthesis gas, but it is not synthetic gas.  See definitions below.

    # I would suggest that the lingustic derivation is not as important as would be general acceptance of what the word means.

    just wondering of all the better minds out there who agrees?  simple yea or nay would be nice to observe. i think for all.

    # Do you see problems with the definitions I proposed? If so, please feel free to propose better alternatives. 

    Best wishes,

    Kevin Chisholm

    luke

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    syn-
      a prefix occurring in loanwords from Greek, having the same function as co-  ( synthesis; synoptic ); used, with the meaning “with,” “together,” in the formation of compound words ( synsepalous ) or “synthetic” in such compounds ( syngas ). 
    Use syn in a Sentence
    See images of syn
    Search syn on the Web
    Also, sy-, syl-, sym-, sys-.


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    Origin: 
    < Gk, comb. form repr. sýn  with, together with 
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    syn·thet·ic
       /sɪnˈθɛtɪk/  Show Spelled
    [sin-thet-ik]  Show IPA
     
    –adjective 
    1. 
    of, pertaining to, proceeding by, or involving synthesis ( opposed to analytic). 
    2. 
    noting or pertaining to compounds formed through a chemical process by human agency, as opposed to those of natural origin: synthetic vitamins; synthetic fiber. 
    3. 
    (of a language) characterized by a relatively widespread use of affixes, rather than separate words, to express syntactic relationships: Latin is a synthetic language, while English is analytic. Compare analytic ( def. 3 ) , polysynthetic ( def. 1 ) . 
    4. 
    Also, syn·thet·i·cal. Logic . of or pertaining to a noncontradictory proposition in which the predicate is not included in, or entailed by, the subject. 
    5. 
    not real or genuine; artificial; feigned: a synthetic chuckle at a poor joke. 
    6. 
    Jewelry . 
    a. 
    noting a gem mineral manufactured so as to be physically, chemically, and optically identical with the mineral as found in nature. 
    b. 
    (not in technical use) noting a gem mineral manufactured and pigmented in imitation of a natural gemstone of that name. 
    –noun 
    7. 
    something made by a synthetic, or chemical, process. 
    8. 
    synthetics. 
    a. 
    substances or products made by chemical synthesis, as plastics or artificial fibers. 
    b. 
    the science or industry concerned with such products. 
    Use synthetic in a Sentence
    See images of synthetic
    Search synthetic on the Web

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    Origin: 
    1690–1700;  < NL syntheticus  < Gk synthetikós,  equiv. to synthet ( ós ) placed together, verbid of syntithénai  to put together ( syn- syn-  + the-,  s. of tithénai  to put, place + -tos  verbid suffix) + -ikos -ic

    —Related forms 
    syn·thet·i·cal·ly, adverb 
    non·syn·thet·ic, adjective 
    non·syn·thet·i·cal, adjective 
    non·syn·thet·i·cal·ly, adverb 
    un·syn·thet·ic, adjective 
    un·syn·thet·i·cal·ly, adverb 


    —Synonyms 
    5.  fake, phony, counterfeit, sham. 


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          synthetic  (sɪnˈθɛtɪk)  
            
          — adj  
          1.  (of a substance or material) made artificially by chemical reaction  
          2.  not genuine; insincere: synthetic compassion  
          3.  polysynthetic agglutinative Compare analytic denoting languages, such as Latin, whose morphology is characterized by synthesis  
          4.  philosophy  
            a. (of a proposition) having a truth-value that is not determined solely by virtue of the meanings of the words, as in all men are arrogant  
            b. a posteriori Compare empirical contingent  
            
          — n  
          5.  a synthetic substance or material  
            
          [C17: from New Latin syntheticus,  from Greek sunthetikos  expert in putting together, from suntithenai  to put together; see synthesis ]  
            
          syn'thetically  
            
          — adv  


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    synthetic 

    1690s, as a term in logic, from Fr. synthétique  (17c.), from Mod.L. syntheticus , from Gk. synthetikos , from synthetos , pp. of syntithenai  (see synthesis). From 1874 in reference to products or materials made artificially by chemical synthesis; hence "artificial" (1930). 
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