[Gasification] Off topic request to sign petition

phillip manske pdmanske at gmail.com
Sun Sep 25 00:23:16 CDT 2011

Hi Toby,

You sound ticked off, welcome to the USA.  I have avoided going to law
school as I feel there are too any but none the less I feel closeted.   The
charges you make make me want to ask more questions for clarification.  I
think a trial over your concern or grievances  would be difficult.  Going to
court without an attorney smacks of stubbornness and perhaps desperation and
that is a red flag.

http://outlawjudges.org/RampoantJudicialFraud.aspx  Google gave me that site
to help explain the fraud you describe.  Close?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/  may be an organization for you.

Good luck!


On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Bob, you are so right that this requires a US Zip code and that it
> does affect you, even if indirectly.
> I would hope that the subject of judges requiring truth in a court of law,
> is universal and not irrelevent to those outside of the US.
> I have been involved now in three court cases as the Plaintiff, with and
> without an attorney and in each one the judge has assisted the defense to
> take my property without paying for it. All have that commonality.
> I'm witnessing court at the local level and the state level that refuse to
> curtail open, judicially noticed attorney fraud, extorting title under color
> of law.
> The judges are assisting the thieves who have obviously paid thier
> attorneys handsomely to help them avoid liability AND keep my stolen
> property. They got $70k of my skin in 2003 and some real property recently.
> Three cases filed...three frauds that judges had actual knowledge of the
> fraud, allowed it to continue against objection (did it anyway ignoring
> rules of court) then pretend, even "certify" to the DOJ that it was done
> correctly.  Open, judicially noticed fraud prevailed in court AND on
> appeal.
> Judges are alligned with corrupt attorneys and thieves and honest services
> cannot be expected....which is the true demise of a republic, I
> believe. Apparently thieves and their attorneys make big campain
> contributions.
> Even more shocking is that nothing is being done to curtail it because our
> legislators and executive (President) are members of the bar (attorney
> licence) and will not act to "check" abuse in the judiciary, because they
> will loose their license. That's verifiable fact, not conjecture, which I
> will gadly provide proof to anyone personally.  Their retaliation is swift.
> It's a conflict of interest showing itself, facilitating the judicial and
> financial class rise to power which acts to subvert freedoms and our
> constitution for most people while our executive and legislators do
> nothing.  God help us because judicial nihilism is upon us,
> Anarchy in the US will have profound effects and without some serious
> change of course, the titanic is going to strike the iceburg and it will
> surely pull others down with it.
> On the bright side I have about 8 signatures of 5000 and about 26 days
> left.
> Best regards,
> Toby Seiler
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