[Gasification] sustainability

Fri Jan 30 13:45:58 CST 2015

Why is it that these discussions, which do suggest many good Climate Change
mitigation techniques, never mention reducing the size of the global human
population? It is the size of the population which uses current Industrial
Age technology that is accelerating greenhouse gas accumulation. Besides,
if the population were smaller then its impact on the ecosystem would also
be reduced.

It isn't just ocean acidification or poor land use planning that is
decimating aquatic and terrestrial species - the economies designed to feed
us have built an industrial fishing and farming system. Growing urban
populations are to blame for shrinking water resources and agricultural
lands.

Even when we do come together to fight climate change the pressure of such
a large human population will require that any solution will have to be
built to size. A smaller population would reduce the size of the solutions
implemented.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Henri Naths <c_hnaths at telusplanet.net>
wrote:

>
> ! ....  Agreed! The belief system that promotes doom, gloom and chaos is a
> totalitarian approach and fear mongering. It does not take into account
> man's intuition and survival skills are bar none.
> We all have a mind, brain and intellect development potential than even
> the best scientist can only estimate.
> The days of "the brain is hard wired" are a thing of the Darwinism bygone
> era. Neuroplasticity, positive energy and spiritually have made significant
> gains in the human condition that will mitigate the existential risk to
> mankind.
> H.
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:38 PM, J. Paul Villella <woodboyz2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Seems your German Socialism is showing through.  Top down never works.
> EVER.  It kills ingenuity/inventiveness/incentive.  10,000 individual
> farmsteads working solutions for their own particular resource mix provide
> synergistic solutions never before would have been considered in the
> beaurocratic nightmaare of top down dictates.  PYROLYSIS would have been
> outlawed before the first puff of smoke was emitted.   The Universe of
> Creativeness depends on freedom of the individual to do and fail and try
> again, not to march lockstep into the doom of conformity to one overlord's
> idea of the "RIGHT WAY".
>
>
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:51 AM, Kermit Schlansker <
> kssustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>                                        Ideas on Sustainability
>
>            We have no right to dismiss Global Warming. The consequences
> are so dire that if the probability of warming occurring were only .1% we
> still would have to act. Furthermore the question really is whether we have
> to conserve or not. As the years go by we will run out of many resources
> including fossil fuels and it is imperative that we conserve them. Still
> another reason is that by reducing consumption we can reduce the basic cost
> of living and that will be essential at a time where poverty is everywhere.
>             It is imperative that we build more nuclear plants because
> that is the only source of energy large enough to save us from total
> despair. Solar, biomass and wind can never produce enough to satisfy our
> needs. However energy sources are only competitive in terms of priority and
> price. We need all of them. Some of them are much easier to finance than
> nuclear and we must proceed on all fronts. We must develop all types of
> energy conservation and alternate energy production in order to keep the
> cost and number of nuclear plants down to a manageable level.
>              Geometry is the best tool for conserving energy. Cities must
> be designed a square mile at a time. That square mile should be packed with
> apartment houses, factories, multi-purpose buildings, a department store,
> and anything else that is needed for every day life. Towns should be so
> designed that “walking to work will save the earth” The construction of
> single family houses should be stopped. The first step is to stop
> subsidizing them in any way. Apartments will save large amounts of heating
> energy and the compactness they can create will greatly reduce
> transportation energy. City and county governments must assist in the
> formation of car pools. Apartments are the only way of saving energy that
> costs nothing because we need a place to live anyhow.
>              Energy saving devices such as cogeneration, comanufacturing,
> combustion driven heat pumps, and solar mirrors for both power generation
> and heating must be developed. Biomass gasifying and biodigestion must be
> experimented with. Large amounts of biomass including fruit trees must be
> planted. Cities must plant parks and streets with edible plants. It is
> essential that sewage be biodigested along with other biomass and used to
> make fertilizer, fuel gas, and clean water The digestion residues can
> initially be used for fertilizing energy crops in order to avoid pollution
> problems
>           There should be large farms with apartment houses on them rather
> than single family houses that destroy both cropland and wilderness.
> Experimental farming should develop both energy and food crops. Farm
> apartment buildings are ideal places to experiment with heating, cooling,
> small windmills, and solar energy.
>             It is imperative that city, State, and county governments get
> involved in initiating large energy projects such as an energy farm or
> experimental low heat apartments. A universal factory would also be a good
> project. In order to do this they should work together to start and finance
> such projects. It is as essential to make it easier for ordinary citizens
> to form cooperatives and small corporations that would do energy or food
> projects. There should be a roster in city hall of people that wish to buy
> stock and help to form such projects.
>
>           Kermit Schlansker   PE     kssustain at gmail.com
>
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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 6:47 AM, J. Paul Villella via Gasification <
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