[Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 85, Issue 4

Thu Jun 14 16:18:58 CDT 2018

On 15/06/2018 4:00 AM, gasification-request at lists.bioenergylists.org wrote:

Thanks for that, Bjorn. Much appreciated.

I've been working as a renewable energy consultant doing cost and 
performance modeling over  the last ten years. Most clients don't want 
an R&D project but rather cost-effective, reliable energy. Low GHG 
emissions is an attractive feature but rarely in my experience the only 
driver. PV is very attractive in that regard as it's low maintenance, 
performance guarantees given site insolation are relatively simple, the 
generation curve often fits commercial site consumption patterns etc 
Some clients are prepared to take more of a punt with kit that might 
need more attention but which will perform within that operational 
envelope. The Spanner is looking interesting in that context.

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> From: Bj?rn Kuntze<kuntze at mastergas.de>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'"
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> this is what I want to add to the Spanner discussion, although two weeks ago:
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> I worked for Spanner as a freelancer not long ago. We did projects with several Spanner gasifiers connected to a bigger engine in order to allow higher capacities, since the Spanner gasifiers make maximum 70 kWe. So I have firsthand information.
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> In my opinion, the Spanner gasifier is not bad at all. They sold more than 750 of such units and the company still exists. Whom of you did better?
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> The restrictions regard the fuel wood properties are even less than I had expected before I worked for them, since I know about downdraft gasification. The need for dry wood for fixed bed downdraft gasification should not be new to the community, isn?t it?
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> There are plenty of Spanner units in Germany that do more than 8000 h/year. Some, but very few, even above 8400 h/year. Ask Spanner directly for reference. But, and this has to be stated as well, operators that achieve such performance levels are very dedicated to their systems 24/7.
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> Mit freundlichen Gr??en / with best regards
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> Von: Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] Im Auftrag von jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2018 07:53
> An: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 84, Issue 8
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> I visited a Spanner a couple of years ago and the owner explained it is very hands on!
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> Woodchip needs to be super dry and if you take one on you need to be an experienced mechanic.
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> Not for the faint hearted!
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> Waiting for the Hargassner 60/20 to be released. Hopefully this will be a step up.
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> Re Doug's comments below, I would be very interested to hear from anyone
> with direct experience of Spanner gasifiers at customer sites operating
> as CHP They appear to have sold a lot, they will provide customer
> references and state that customers are using them up to 7000 hours a
> year with tractable quantities of maintenance.
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> On 31/05/2018 4:00 AM, gasification-request at lists.bioenergylists.org<mailto:gasification-request at lists.bioenergylists.org>   wrote:
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>> Hi Arnt,
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>> Pleased you are still hanging on to our reducing interest in
>> gasification!! Are you retired yet(:-)
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>> Thanks for the links which I finally managed to get open. Saw the Biomax
>> a few years ago and had connections to a School installation that never
>> did get to run it without a lot of trouble. Like always, it works if the
>> manufacturer is there to operate it. We have all had that experience.
>> Would be a good buy for all the ancillary equipment, if developing their
>> own system.
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>> Best Regards,
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>> Doug Williams.
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>> Fluidyne.
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>> On 28/05/18 06:14, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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>>> ..works for me, 7?h bidder just bid another US$32:
>>> Current Bid: 632 USD (Reserve Not Met)
>>> Close Time: 05/29 02:03 PM CT
>>> Description
>>> Biomax Gasifier and Generator, 25-Open Modules system. Mfr: Community
>>> Power Corporation. (1245JP813104MW) Operable; system is complete and
>>> works well; fully automatic startup, operation,&  shutdown; no liquid
>>> effluents or toxic wastes; combined heat and power; uses a variety of
>>> woody biomass residues; includes wood chipper, dryer, feeder, gas
>>> filter, gasifier, controls, and generator; automatic switchover to 100%
>>> wood gas. Purchaser is required to safely remove all equipment and
>>> connecting hardware, conduit, ventilation, etc. 1245JP813104MW
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>>>
>>> ..birds view:
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8993312,-92.7821845,152m/data=!3m1!1e3
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>>> ..northern corner view:
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8996772,-92.7821775,3a,15y,176.95h,90.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG_bVSHlX2KfLIgn01eqYyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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>>>
>>> ..25kWe prototypes that lead to BioMax?100?:
>>> http://www.gocpc.com/more-information/biomax-overview.html
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