[Gasification] FW: Gasification internship opportunity in Philippines

Wed May 2 09:33:35 CDT 2018

Harrie, Doug, and others,

I am working with Gary Gilmore on char-gasifiers for small IC engines, 
including gensets up to 15 kWe that will output about 10 kWe when 
operated with char gas.

Gary and I will be at the Argos Indiana gathering of "Drive on Wood" 
that is on June 1, 2, 3. (One month from now.)

Our focus is NOT for providing chargas power to vehicles.  (leave that 
for gasoline and diesel.)

Our prototype unit has (or is to have by then) the following 
characteristics:

A.  Continous operation, not a batch operation.   Manual operation, that 
can be automated.

B.  Complete all the way to the attachment to the intake of chargas into 
the IC engine. (not for diesel engines unless someone  else has provided 
spark ignition or is a diesel engine expert.)

C.  Low cost (but no pricing available at this time).   The genset is 
far more expensive than char-gasifier.  Adding automation to the 
char-gasifier would greatly increase the cost, and is not recommended 
for low-income societies where labor is inexpensive.

D.  Sizes to suit different sizes of engines.

E.  Information about char production and about proper sizing / 
screening of the char is also available.

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Yes, we are looking for SERIOUS collaborators who have skills and 
resources.  Both in North America AND internatioally.    Contact 
directly with us is fine (  psanders at ilstu.edu   ), but some discussion 
can be via the Gasification Listserv.

Gary and I will also be at the USBI (US Biochar Initiative) conference 
in Wilmington, Delaware on 20 - 23 August 2018.

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 5/2/2018 7:03 AM, Harrie Knoef wrote:
> Dear Doug, Paul and all others, as long as Doug is on this discussion 
> list, I agreed with him, but in this case I have my doubts. (Sorry Doug)
> Why?
> Cheap solutions based on charcoal gasification are available.
> Activated carbon on coconut shells is a good suggestion, but this is 
> not what Mr. Feinstein is asking for.
> The company needs electricity and heat.
> In my opinion Paul is correct: when charcoal is available in remote a 
> remote area it must be possible to produce heat and electricity on a 
> small scale.
>
> Regards to Doug and Paul
>
> Harrie Knoef
>
> *From:* Paul Anderson <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2018 2:34 AM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
> <mailto:gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org> ; Doug 
> <mailto:doug.williams.nz at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Asa Feinstein <mailto:asa at cocoasenso.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] FW: Gasification internship opportunity 
> in Philippines
> Doug and all,
>
> You can count me as  "in" to assist where appropriate. Main topics for 
> me include:
>
> A.  The production of electricity via char-gasification gases into IC 
> engines.
>
> B.  To better understand the amounts of heat wanted for the drying 
> processes.
>
> C.  Need to know about the types and amounts of biomass.
>
> This Gasification Listserv is certainly a good place to have further 
> discussions.
>
> Paul
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:www.drtlud.com
> On 5/1/2018 4:40 PM, Doug wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gasification Colleagues,
>>
>> While we can "collectively" offer Mr Feinstein just about everything 
>> for his project from a commercial perspective, his project 
>> description clearly states that they wish to develop cheap low cost 
>> solutions to become locally manufactured. These are the things that 
>> bother me regarding their concept objectives.
>>
>> 1. If he imports a Intern Engineer for $500 a month, just how much 
>> real value could this person offer for such a short term contract?
>>
>> 2. Making charcoal, no problem, but easiest and cheapest option 
>> reduces waste heat collection or close coupled combustion for driers.
>>
>> 3. Quality of charcoal for power generation is OK for the cheapest 
>> char making option, but this is not the quality found in activated 
>> carbon.
>>
>> 4. Steam is required for blanching the product, so a low cost boiler 
>> is a necessity, along with water treatment, the main factor of boiler 
>> efficiency, even cheap ones.
>>
>> 5. Steam blanching has an issue of toxic waste water, and in a rural 
>> location, ground water will become contaminated unless treated. Do 
>> they know about this and who will monitor the ground water?
>>
>> 6. Maybe activated carbon can be used to clean up the waste stream, 
>> but it would be purchased, as a cheap char option does not create the 
>> type of temperature or steam pressures to make it.
>>
>> 7. No indicative amount of power generation is stated, but one might 
>> think it would be at least 15-20 kWe given that motor start-ups on 
>> oil extruder's etc, need power generation reserves. Cheap generators 
>> can be an expensive low cost solution, especially if any computers 
>> become part of the process.
>>
>> Start-up rural projects like this have a history which tell us not to 
>> reinvent the wheel yet once again. The easiest way to do this is to 
>> offer unpaid enthusiastic help to the selected engineering graduate, 
>> and this open Gasification list offers a good way to do it., So who 
>> is in, what can you offer Mr Feinsteins team?
>>
>> Doug Williams,
>> Fluidyne.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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