[Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful

[jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk]

Hi Werner, 

The spanner system is much more expensive than the all power labs on a
like for like basis. 

The spanner system is not economical in terms of payback without
significant subisidy, of which there is not enough available to justify
it in the UK. 

Some concern has been expressed regarding the All power labs system as
not being robust? Are you able to comment? 

Thanks. 

Jess

On 2018-11-11 20:50, Werner Rhein wrote:

> Hi all,  
> 
> very interesting question but with an easy answer. There are now several manufacturers of wood gasification generators in Europe the US and China. 
> 
> I established connections to the German company with most of experience, 5500 units installed and over 20 000 000 hours of operation, trouble free. 
> 
> Here an installation in Canada. 
> 
> https://www.canadianbiomassmagazine.ca/news/green-gas-kwadacha-nation-installs-wood-gasification-system-6699 
> 
> Here the US All Power Lab, 
> 
> http://www.allpowerlabs.com/ 
> 
> Why are you looking in all the wrong places. Go to the proven products, install it and use it. Then if necessary improve it. Way less time consuming and investment. 
> 
> Werner Rhein 
> 
> Another Solution Consulting. 
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2018, at 12:29, Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Tom and all, 
>> 
>> Please guide us (as a start) to understanding the needs and realities of off-grid non-solar power where biomass is plentiful.   Are there some key links?   
>> 
>> Low-population, forested high latitude areas (less sunlight) without easy boat or train access would seem to be a major geographic region of need.  Diesel generators seem to dominate the power generation.   What sources confirm these statements, how big is the problem (expressed as numbers of gensets at what sizes), and what is being done about it, and by whom?    (Canadians, please reply with your info.) 
>> 
>> This should be a significant topic for this Listserv. 
>> 
>> Paul 
>> 
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>> FROM: Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> ON BEHALF OF tmiles at trmiles.com
>> SENT: Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:13 PM
>> TO: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>> SUBJECT: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference 
>> 
>> Are you in a marine air environment? There are many villages that need electricity in low coastal areas.. 
>> 
>> Tom 
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