[Greenbuilding] Fat Americans (was Re: Staggering 1/2 tonne per person per year cement production!)

[Clarke Olsen]

I think that the two pound meal must include some of the food that gets tossed, either at the table, or at the market from damage or expiration.
Clarke Olsen
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On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:28 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well since you asked...
> 
> we were trying to come up with some basic quantities as parameters to use in a very early version of the Ecological Footprint calculator. Then (as apparently now) the numbers out there for food consumption are pretty shoddy. We did not have a composting toilet then, so weighing the poop was a little beyond our abilities & inclinations. 
> 
> There was no moral dimension to the experiment or to my posting the numbers here today. Just a bit of quantification I thought might help us make sense of the disparate figures being tossed out. 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Antonioli Dan <solardan26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reuben, 
> 
> Did you factor in how many pounds of solid poop you and your wife dumped? Did you divert it to humanure? Did you quantify the amount of water used to grow the food you ate? Transportation, etc.?
> 
> Is there some kind of assumption here that an “energy analysis” vis-a-vis food and anything else. makes any sense whatsoever? 
> 
> Formulaes, numbers, Fortran throwbacks, calories, what is anything is being stated here, let alone proven?
> 
> Note that grains are bad for you……even if you live in a net-zero energy cob cottage……
> 
> Whatever happened to “paving the way?”
> 
> How about “caving the way” with our caveman consciousness?
> 
> Lentils = Bad.
> 
> Prius = Silly! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> About fifteen years ago, my wife and I decided to weigh all the food we ate for a year. We identified 172 categories. We also weighed our compost. I offer these statistics as a contribution to this lovely (unrelated-to-greenbuilding) conversation:
>> 
>> During that year the two of us ate 1,659 lbs (net of compost)
>> which averages to 2.7lbs/person/day.
>> - grains incl. bread 599 lbs
>> - vegetables 427 lbs
>> - dairy products 397 lbs
>> - fruit 320 lbs
>> 
>> (category totals sum to more than the annual total because the experiment actually ran for 14 months)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:44 PM, RT <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:34:47 -0400, Antonioli Dan <solardan26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No scientific reference to this link, Nick. Is it in there somewhere?
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2015, at 4:35 PM, <nick_pine at verizon.net> <nick_pine at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> sanjay jain wrote:
>> ... we produce 1/2 tonne cement per person per year. That's more cement than food!
>> 
>> No. An average American eats about 1 ton per year
>> 
>> 
>> Assuming that an "average" American eats three meals a day, in one year they'd eat 1095 meals.
>> 
>> For an "average" American to eat a ton of food a year, they'd have to eat almost two pounds of food at every one of those 1095 meals.
>> 
>> An "average" adult will feel full after eating about a pound of food.
>> 
>> Eating another whole meal after one already feels full is nothing short of gluttony and will surely result in gross obesity if not premature death. That's only logical.
>> 
>> Okay then. A quick show of hands: How many of the American listmembers here are obese ?
>> 
>> If you're not, then you're not an "average" American, if we are to believe Nick.
>> 
>> -- 
>> === * ===
>> Rob Tom            ADT1
>> Kanata, Ontario, Canada
>> 
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