[Digestion] Digestion Digest, Vol 11, Issue 16

[Steve Verhey]

I have already offered another blog to which to take this discussion, and I am writing with another suggestion.

All of us, whether or not we accept global climate change as "real enough," should read this: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/22/lowercase-theories-u.html . It's not very long, and if we still have time after reading it, we should read the comments. After we've read the comments, if we have anything to say, we should say it there. 

This list has indicated it would prefer discussions of climate change not happen here. Please don't respond to this e-mail on the list, but feel free to write me off-list: verheys at hotmail.com . 

From: bingham at zekes.com
To: david at h4c.org; digestion at lists.bioenergylists.org
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:05:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [Digestion] Digestion Digest, Vol 11, Issue 16










I honestly do not believe this is the 
correct forum  for this type of discussion.
I can go back to the time I was in college and 
produce papers written to verify there was a consciences that settled science 
determined
there was going to be an impending ice age. 

this was repeated in almost every major world 
paper.
It is my understanding that over the period of 
time you reference, settled science has determined there to have been 3 ice ages 
and 3 
or more incidences of global warming. 

Sense they all pre dates man to what do you 
attribute the warming?
 
"When, over suitable time ranges, the record of temperatures is averaged, 
what has been found is that indeed things have 
gotten warmer. (This is pretty well-settled science, and the effort has 
been undertaken by a number of different and independent groups."
I would like to see the list of "independent groups" you refer 
too. The ones we saw listed are anything but independent. 
 
If you look closely at the list of so called 
scientists that makes up the "settled science" report over 80 % receive money 
from 
groups that support that same point of view. I 
also remember not so long ago many on this list falsified or misstated data to 
create the 
elusion of global warming.
 
When a tractor salesman tells me a competitors 
brand is better I am more inclined to believe it than when he tells me the 
others brand 
is worse. 
 
The idea of energy conservation would have 
any effect on the earth biosphere is a joke.
If you look closely the effects they estimate are 
not within the margin of error and would take 100 years to even show up at 
all.
 
The population is growing and they will need 
increasing amounts of energy to improve and sustain their lives over the short 
and long term.
AD provides a way to take the waste that will 
inevitably be generated and convert it in to usable by products.
 
They only way to accomplish significant energy 
conservation is the plan progressives cam up with at the turn of the 
century.
they were going to sterilize mass portions of the 
population. George Bernard Shaw was part of this group.
If you read  Shaw's  less well known 
writings you will find he and his group had very logical justification for there 
positions, the 
environment being one of them.
 
I cannot remember who was concerned about low corn 
prices, but how are the high prices working out for you?
 
Brent
One the PhDs not on the list of settled 
science!
 
 
 		 	   		  
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