[Gasification] Off topic request to sign petition

Sun Sep 25 01:05:51 CDT 2011

.with Liberty and Justice for All (who can afford it!)

From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of phillip
manske
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:23 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Off topic request to sign petition

Hi Toby,

You sound ticked off, welcome to the USA.  I have avoided going to law
school as I feel there are too any but none the less I feel closeted.   The
charges you make make me want to ask more questions for clarification.  I
think a trial over your concern or grievances  would be difficult.  Going to
court without an attorney smacks of stubbornness and perhaps desperation and
that is a red flag.   

http://outlawjudges.org/RampoantJudicialFraud.aspx  Google gave me that site
to help explain the fraud you describe.  Close?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/  may be an organization for you.

Good luck!

Phillip

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks Bob, you are so right that this requires a US Zip code and that it
does affect you, even if indirectly.

I would hope that the subject of judges requiring truth in a court of law,
is universal and not irrelevent to those outside of the US.

I have been involved now in three court cases as the Plaintiff, with and
without an attorney and in each one the judge has assisted the defense to
take my property without paying for it. All have that commonality. 

I'm witnessing court at the local level and the state level that refuse to
curtail open, judicially noticed attorney fraud, extorting title under color
of law.  

The judges are assisting the thieves who have obviously paid thier attorneys
handsomely to help them avoid liability AND keep my stolen property. They
got $70k of my skin in 2003 and some real property recently.

Three cases filed...three frauds that judges had actual knowledge of the
fraud, allowed it to continue against objection (did it anyway ignoring
rules of court) then pretend, even "certify" to the DOJ that it was done
correctly.  Open, judicially noticed fraud prevailed in court AND on appeal.

Judges are alligned with corrupt attorneys and thieves and honest services
cannot be expected....which is the true demise of a republic, I believe.
Apparently thieves and their attorneys make big campain contributions.  

Even more shocking is that nothing is being done to curtail it because our
legislators and executive (President) are members of the bar (attorney
licence) and will not act to "check" abuse in the judiciary, because they
will loose their license. That's verifiable fact, not conjecture, which I
will gadly provide proof to anyone personally.  Their retaliation is swift.

It's a conflict of interest showing itself, facilitating the judicial and
financial class rise to power which acts to subvert freedoms and our
constitution for most people while our executive and legislators do nothing.
God help us because judicial nihilism is upon us,

Anarchy in the US will have profound effects and without some serious change
of course, the titanic is going to strike the iceburg and it will surely
pull others down with it.  

On the bright side I have about 8 signatures of 5000 and about 26 days left.

Best regards,

Toby Seiler

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