[Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?

linvent at aol.com linvent at aol.com
Mon Jul 23 04:24:17 CDT 2012


Dear Thomas,
     Ah, yes, a narrow range system. I agree and what do you do with piles of char? 
	For those who have better specs, it takes one with in-depth knowledge to ask the right questions and understand the value in the market place. 


Sincerely,

Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Koch <tk at tke.dk>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>; Doug.Williams <Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz>; gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:44 pm
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On their homepage you find the folloving information:
 
Reliable Renewables, LLC produces about 1.5 tons of biochar a day from a 1MW or 330MMBtu/day energy center fueled by woodchips. Biochar yield will vary based upon species of fuel.
 
1,5 tons/day = 62,5 kg/hour of 25 MJ/kg = 430 kW charloss I like to call it.
 
I do not understand how one can make value out of these 430 kW? Unless they Are gasified.
 
Best regards
 
Thomas
 
 
 
Fra: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org]På vegne af linvent at aol.com
Sendt: 23. juli 2012 00:08
Til: Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz; gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org; gasification at bioenergylists.org
Emne: Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?
 
Dear Doug,

                     Looks good, let's see where there might be devils: 

1.                  Down draft, needs pelleted or larger sized feedstock? 

2.                  what happens to the removed tars and of course water? 

3.                  Cyclones are unneeded if designed right

4.                  ESP's are obsolete. 

5.                  Ash C content? 

6.                  Blowers after the fact are less efficient than before the reactor. Operating in a negative pressure asks for leaks and possible explosions.

7.                  Control system way too complicated. 

8.                  Cost of course.  

Sincerely,

Leland T. "Tom" Taylor

Thermogenics Inc. 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.williams <Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz>
To: gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53 pm
Subject: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?

Hi Gasification Colleagues,

 

I was sent this link a few days ago, seeking clarification of the information about this gasification system.

 

http://www.rrbtu.com/technology/ 



With all the accumulative experience available to this forum as specifically applied to producer gas, how well does this present information to an ignorant potential user?  Is it possible to accept all that is said, given that as a  presentation, it suggests that they have resolved all the environmental issues that water scrubbers present?  

 

The executive team comes with a lot of experience, and it looks like considerable financial support, so is this a system that is heading for success, given that so many others have failed in the USA?

 

 

Doug Williams,

Fluidyne.

 

 

 


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