[Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?

Pannirselvam P.V pannirbr at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 06:36:54 CDT 2012 

            Dear   Dr Dough .William , Thomas and  Leland Tom Taylor

       The  issue  Dough bring here are the most relevant technical
problems  , mostly unsolved , every one have their state of
art practical solutions  for the same .

      We are involved with the innovative Novall design  related to this
enery  and environmental  problems

 In some small scale  operated  by small scale  in remote area
of Amazon are   , the tar  are well recycled back , naturally we also  are
limited to the amounts , as yet we have little data on the quality about
the gas
                we also studying the possibility to use bio oil   and  alos
washing latter , water washing so that the aquous  thus they can resource
 as Biodeisel and biogas   opportunity

    The successful nano small  car  Tata  Gasifier all are made  with
blower air input .

Some of Brazilian very old 1970-80  gasifier  has solved the natural  air
flow ,  where our list coordinator   had very good practical experience.

      Small  CHP smart grid, now   can be reality by legislation in Brazil
, thus the local energy company can now purchase excess energy produced  by
any  company , as the energy demand and energy price  are very high.Any new
 investor are welcome , as few  from Europe
and India  already in Brazilian enery market .
 In this context very good opportunity are there  in Brazil .As once  Dough
has pointed out we are also taking  care  to use  renewable tree pruning of
cashew  as raw material  to make our project  sustainable. In this context
, very good  Dough  bring hear relevant questions , but the very good blue
flame  achieved  by Reliable Renewables, LLC   well shown  by the company
indeed  great hope and good future  those  who work to make possible energy
 from biomass wastes .

 Critical analysis and comments  about this  design solutions  are very
important issue to our big list



On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:24 AM, <linvent at aol.com> wrote:

> Dear Thomas,
>      Ah, yes, a narrow range system. I agree and what do you do with piles
> of char?
>  For those who have better specs, it takes one with in-depth knowledge to
> ask the right questions and understand the value in the market place.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
> Thermogenics Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Koch <tk at tke.dk>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <
> gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>; Doug.Williams <
> Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz>; gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org
> >
> Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?
>
>  On their homepage you find the folloving information:
>
> Reliable Renewables, LLC produces about 1.5 tons of biochar a day from a
> 1MW or 330MMBtu/day energy center fueled by woodchips. Biochar yield will
> vary based upon species of fuel.
>
> 1,5 tons/day = 62,5 kg/hour of 25 MJ/kg = 430 kW charloss I like to call
> it.
>
> I do not understand how one can make value out of these 430 kW? Unless
> they Are gasified.
>
> Best regards
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> *Fra:* gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org [
> mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org<gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org?>]
> *På vegne af *linvent at aol.com
> *Sendt:* 23. juli 2012 00:08
> *Til:* Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz; gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org;
> gasification at bioenergylists.org
> *Emne:* Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?
>
> Dear Doug,
>                        Looks good, let's see where there might be devils:
>  1.                   Down draft, needs pelleted or larger sized
> feedstock?
>  2.                   what happens to the removed tars and of course
> water?
>  3.                   Cyclones are unneeded if designed right
>  4.                   ESP's are obsolete.
>  5.                   Ash C content?
>  6.                   Blowers after the fact are less efficient than
> before the reactor. Operating in a negative pressure asks for leaks and
> possible explosions.
>  7.                   Control system way too complicated.
>  8.                   Cost of course.
>  Sincerely,
>  Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
>  Thermogenics Inc.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: doug.williams <Doug.Williams at orcon.net.nz>
> To: gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53 pm
> Subject: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?
>  *Hi Gasification Colleagues,*
>
>  *I was sent this link a few days ago, seeking clarification of the
> information about this gasification system.*
>
>  *http://www.rrbtu.com/technology/* <http://www.rrbtu.com/technology/>* **
> *
>
> *With all the accumulative experience available to this forum as
> specifically applied to producer gas, how well does this present
> information to an ignorant potential user?  Is it possible to accept all
> that is said, given that as a  presentation, it suggests that they have
> resolved all the environmental issues that water scrubbers present?  *
>
>  *The executive team comes with a lot of experience, and it looks like
> considerable financial support, so is this a system that is heading for
> success, given that so many others have failed in the USA?*
>
>
>  *Doug Williams,*
>  *Fluidyne.*
>
>
>
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