[Gasification] newbie question...

[GFWHELL at aol.com]

The production of methane without the use of organics was solved 100 years  
ago by "Sabatier"
A French Nobel prize winner for his contribution to inorganic  chemistry.
He produced the gas using CO 2+ H 2  in a pressure heat reaction in  the 
presence of metallic catalysts.
If you compare his original work  with the contributions made by  various 
crackpot free energy workers who  run IC engines on water, you will  notice 
the similarities of the  process they employ.
The engines used to demonstrate  the apparent miracle have a  modified 
cylinder head with catylist plates
internally attached.
Using some of the hot CO + CO 2 exhaust together with steam to  provide  O 
+ H 2 to provide "FUEL" to the engine The "Sabatier" Reaction  occurs during 
the power stroke of the engine.
 
The exhaust manifold of an engine running at peak load produces enough heat 
 to gasify any hydrogen bearing  fuel in an oxygen free enclosure, Thus  
utilizing waste heat for the purpose of making fuel.
Forget about building a fuel burning gas converter running on  a  negative 
pressure. use a high compression engine to provide the conditions to  change 
CO 2 into methane using low grade fuels.
 
Enter:  non organic methane generation: in your seach engine.
 
 
 
GFWHELL
 
 
In a message dated 4/2/2015 10:25:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
david at meed.ca writes:

Not sure  what is involved in methane, other than filling a tank with
manure and  water and waiting (with nose plugs<grin> )
- but on a small scale I  wonder what kind of volumes of methane are 
produced.

If you take a  typical small 5 kw generator (10hp engine) and figure it
has a cylinder  volume around 400cc and it is turning 3600 rpm you
would be looking at .4lt  * 1800=720 litres/minute or about 25.4 cfm of
gas. Even if you mix it 10:1  with air, you are using 2.5 cfm of
methane, 150 cubic feet per hour.   How many minutes will a small
digester run that engine?  (or how big  does the digester have to be to
keep the engine running as long as you want  it.)  Flaring a small
digester may be impressive, but what is the  actual volume of gas it
provides?

With wood gasification you can  "create" your fuel as fast as you need
it simply by sizing the gasifier to  match your engine and pouring in
more wood chips or pellets.

Suggest  spending a few weeks reading through the back postings here,
on yahoo  woodgas group and look at drive on wood (although that may be
a pay  site).  You'll soon figure out who knows what they are talking
about,  and you can follow some of them back to their web sites for
more  info.

David <been lurking a while> Meed


On Wed, Apr 1,  2015 at 6:20 PM, hugh <hugh at austrop.org.au> wrote:
> Just joined  .. and have been interested in gas from wood pyrolysisfor 
quite
> a  while - but also in methane from bio-digestion (small scale) .. and
>  haven't been able to find a suitable group
>
> Does anybody have  some suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Hugh
>
>  (Dr) Hugh Spencer
> Australian Tropical Research Foundation
> Cape  Tribulation Tropical Research Station
> PMB 5 Cape Tribulation  Qld.
>
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