[Gasification] newbie question...

[Jeff Davis]

" Using some of the hot CO + CO 2 exhaust together with steam to provide  O
+ H 2 to provide "FUEL" to the engine The "Sabatier" Reaction occurs during
the power stroke of the engine."

When your engine is running on only water where does the CO2 come from?

Thanks,
Jeff


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On Apr 3, 2015 3:38 PM, <GFWHELL at aol.com> wrote:

>  The production of methane without the use of organics was solved 100
> years ago by "Sabatier"
> A French Nobel prize winner for his contribution to inorganic chemistry.
> He produced the gas using CO 2+ H 2  in a pressure heat reaction in the
> presence of metallic catalysts.
> If you compare his original work  with the contributions made by various
> crackpot free energy workers who  run IC engines on water, you will notice
> the similarities of the  process they employ.
> The engines used to demonstrate  the apparent miracle have a modified
> cylinder head with catylist plates
> internally attached.
> Using some of the hot CO + CO 2 exhaust together with steam to provide  O
> + H 2 to provide "FUEL" to the engine The "Sabatier" Reaction occurs during
> the power stroke of the engine.
>
> The exhaust manifold of an engine running at peak load produces enough
> heat to gasify any hydrogen bearing  fuel in an oxygen free enclosure, Thus
> utilizing waste heat for the purpose of making fuel.
> Forget about building a fuel burning gas converter running on  a negative
> pressure. use a high compression engine to provide the conditions to change
> CO 2 into methane using low grade fuels.
>
> Enter:  non organic methane generation: in your seach engine.
>
>
>
> GFWHELL
>
>  In a message dated 4/2/2015 10:25:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> david at meed.ca writes:
>
> Not sure what is involved in methane, other than filling a tank with
> manure and water and waiting (with nose plugs<grin> )
> - but on a small scale I wonder what kind of volumes of methane are
> produced.
>
> If you take a typical small 5 kw generator (10hp engine) and figure it
> has a cylinder volume around 400cc and it is turning 3600 rpm you
> would be looking at .4lt * 1800=720 litres/minute or about 25.4 cfm of
> gas. Even if you mix it 10:1 with air, you are using 2.5 cfm of
> methane, 150 cubic feet per hour.  How many minutes will a small
> digester run that engine?  (or how big does the digester have to be to
> keep the engine running as long as you want it.)  Flaring a small
> digester may be impressive, but what is the actual volume of gas it
> provides?
>
> With wood gasification you can "create" your fuel as fast as you need
> it simply by sizing the gasifier to match your engine and pouring in
> more wood chips or pellets.
>
> Suggest spending a few weeks reading through the back postings here,
> on yahoo woodgas group and look at drive on wood (although that may be
> a pay site).  You'll soon figure out who knows what they are talking
> about, and you can follow some of them back to their web sites for
> more info.
>
> David <been lurking a while> Meed
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:20 PM, hugh <hugh at austrop.org.au> wrote:
> > Just joined .. and have been interested in gas from wood pyrolysisfor
> quite
> > a while - but also in methane from bio-digestion (small scale) .. and
> > haven't been able to find a suitable group
> >
> > Does anybody have some suggestions?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > (Dr) Hugh Spencer
> > Australian Tropical Research Foundation
> > Cape Tribulation Tropical Research Station
> > PMB 5 Cape Tribulation Qld.
> >
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