Paul,
The smallest Thermogenics has built is a 50 Kwe system and could consider a 25 kwe system. I will send you information on the 50Kw separately.
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
+001-505-463-8422
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent
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From: Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
To: gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
Tom M. and Tom T., and all,
What arer the sizes (kWe) (or some other measurement??) of these units? Big difference if discussing 5 kWe or 25 or 100 or larger. My interest is in sizes under 25 kWe.
Paul
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
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On 4/18/2017 11:16 AM, l wrote:
It seems that these systems are all the same and have very limited input range, complex control systems, no produced water removal and treatment system where water vapor eats the engine parts from formation of organic and other acids and lowers volumetric efficiency from dilution of the produced gas. There are significant improvements that go beyond these options and allow for much longer life of the engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and not necessary for pelleting.
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
+001-505-463-8422
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent
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From: David Murphy <djfmurphy at dodo.com.au>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 8:53 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
Nicolo,
please stop sending me emails to other people.
David Murphy.
On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
you are welcome Tom,
only 4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( < than 4 mgr/nM3 )
and only very few can process anything else other than strictly selected wood chips
here is one we are proud to represent
www.pyrogas-gmbh.de
The package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for years that required
complete replacement after 3/4 years, now they use a new USA Made CHP engine called Origin
probably a labelled OEM Product we cannot trace.
our organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste types and organic matters
such as chicken manure
regards
NC
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2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
Thanks, Nicolo. It’s good to know about you.
I didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in Europe.
Tom
From: Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Nicolò Cerni
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:08 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: SPAM: Re: [Gasification] Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
Hello
please see our versions
at www.altair-pyro.com
new addresses here below
we are shipping to you our sales docs
our prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized costs of energy
they range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe installed Cogen set power
we know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter is a Spanner user )
we have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
regards
NC
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2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
At a wood energy conference in Alaska last week it occurred to me that the number of small scale “industrial” gasifiers is growing. They are now available worldwide and there are many reports of good customer service. Gasifiers that were only available in Europe are now being installed in North America.
Wood chip and pellet gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe range are now running 7000 hours or more.
Some suppliers:
Spanner – 600 units
Volter – 100 units
Holzenergie – 60 units
Burkhardt – 100+ (wood pellets)
These units all have tight fuel requirements: pellets (Burkhardt) or dry (13-15% MC), and properly sized fuel for reliable operation. Some suppliers offer sizing and drying equipment.
They are all expensive so they require applications where there is high value for the heat and the power.
What has been the owner-operator experience of running these systems?
Tom
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