[Greenbuilding] Greenbuilding Digest, Vol 4, Issue 10

[action jackson]

actually...if folks spent time outside ACTUALLY working ...they would be
overwhelmed by how hot we keep our homes! They would not wish for central
heat because a cool bedroom is refreshing!

 I know because as a builder I am outside--- all day every day in my
longjohns.

I come home and I wear felt boot liners as slippers, and I keep my longjohns
on and often wear a toque or hooded sweat shirt in the house.

 I do not feel that this awkwardly broadcasts my lower class status. but
rather my connection to our planet in that-

 I live outdoors and take temporary refuge in my dwelling the way we have
existed for most of human history .

I set my thermostat by looking to see if i can see my breath. If I can I
bump it up by about 2 degrees farenheit (about 58 degrees farenheit total)

This is exactly why legislating energy efficiency is *not *going to save us.
It effectively mandates consumption (of resources to insulate)

we need to mandate conservation.

....my thoughts for the day

cheers
jt

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> I'm in Seattle at the moment looking at housing stock.  I am amazed to see
> little or no insulation in the small older craftsman style houses built in
> the first quarter of the last century.  This only where I can actually
> check
> it out, like areas that open to space beneath the roof.  Here I see no
> insulation at all.  Again, is roof insulation in this part of the country
> non-existent?  Energy efficient building non-existent?
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> I'm in the very strange position of needing to invest a fair amount of
> money
> in a property.  Expensive here, I am looking in the $500,000 price range
> which doesn't get one much in this city.  Working with a Realtor I like, I
> nonetheless would be happy to have advice.  Am checking out any sort of
> housing within about 5-6 miles of downtown Seattle.  I have strict time
> constraints.
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> Anyone on this list living in Seattle?  I know the housing bubble created a
> frenzy of building in the last decade, probably bad construction.  Are
> there
> known good builders?  Who are they?  Am interested in viewing anything
> built
> over the last 100 years.  Prefer no condos.
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> Would appreciate responses.  Sacie
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> From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
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> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Sacie Lambertson <
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> >  I am amazed to see little or no insulation in the small older craftsman
> > style houses built in the first quarter of the last century.
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> People used to bundle up and put up with drafts. Hard to fathom. We've
> gotten so soft.
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> In my neighborhood in the next big city to the South of you it is similar.
> Lots and lots of houses that still lack insulation. Maybe a little in the
> attic, but not much anywhere else. I blame central heating. If folks had to
> chop wood and heat the great outdoors with it they'd have wised up long
> ago.
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> Reuben Deumling
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Joshua Thornton
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