[Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference
Ron Cascio
roncascio at verizon.net
Sat Apr 30 15:18:27 CDT 2011
Heck, two of our '96 VW Passats can get up to 50 MPG, be someplace on time and in comfort, plus burn the biodiesel made right here in town from a byproduct of the chicken industry.
My hat is off to you, but you can have that scooter deal making your point.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: RE-USE Consulting
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Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference
I am disappointed to find that the scooter averages only about 60-65 mpg, but on the open road and using some bicycling techniques I know I will try to get that up to 70mpg and I will track that on (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367)
I have to get back to packing and planning, but know this:
I had to make a trade-off in mpg to provide more help to my clients and spend more time with them. Think of it this way, they say that the materials in a 2000 sq ft home have the embodied energy equal to 1000's of gallons of gas (see http://www.deconstructioninstitute.com/calc4.php). If I help these groups get started and 5 of them go on to deconstruct 100 buildings a year, even after accounting for the materials that are not saved, the parts of the 500 buildings diverted could equal over 2,000,000 gallons of gas. Then and only then would I sleep soundly knowing that I had made up for the 27-30 gallons of gas the scooter used.
Building deconstruction rules....
Dave Bennink
RE-USE Consulting
dave at decon.us
www.reuseconsulting.com
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gennaro Brooks-Church" <info at ecobrooklyn.com>
To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Cc: Greenbuilding at bioenergylists.org
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:14:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference
I don't know....moped, scooter....it is a 250cc bike, no? If anything a 250cc motorcycle gets better mileage than a 250 scooter due to better aerodynamics. I don't mean to be nit picky but if the object is green transportation then isn't a low cc the measure of that, a bicycle being the greenest at 0 cc? 250cc is better than 500cc I guess.
I don't mean to put a negative light on something that is clearly worth doing and will benefit the planet. Maybe I'm getting stuck on small details?
Gennaro Brooks-Church
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:03 PM, RE-USE Consulting <go2nacho at comcast.net> wrote:
2000 mile scooter trip - I had hoped to use a 50cc at 100mpg, but it would have meant skipping about half of the groups that I am trying to provide free consulting to (due to the slow speed). I think by definition 50cc bikes are 'mopeds'.
Trying to keep fuel consumption at $100 or less, and I am trying to pin down the mpgs for this bike. I will be tracking that on my Facebook page for following our progress: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
I have to fly to my next job after it is over. There are a dozen out of work construction workers expecting me to train them on building deconstruction and material reuse so they can get back to work. Thanks.
Dave Bennink
RE-USE Consulting
www.reuseconsulting.com
dave at decon.us
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
360-201-6977
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reuben Deumling" <9watts at gmail.com>
To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Cc: Greenbuilding at bioenergylists.org
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference
sounds good to me.
Even scooters aren't what they used to be. I thought 50cc was the scooter class. What is your anticipated fuel consumption for the trip? Are you returning by scooter as well?
Reuben Deumling
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:47 PM, RE-USE Consulting <go2nacho at comcast.net> wrote:
a 250cc scooter!
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