[Greenbuilding] Web Design

[Erin Rasmussen]

Hi David, 

If you are happy using Dreamweaver, just upgrade to the current version. The newer version uses the new method of HTML and CSS and it has some great features to 'automagically' help you tidy up your code and modernize it.  If you're happy, and you like your site, there's no reason to go through a drastic change. 

That said, WordPress is a great tool to use, and it's fairly easy to work with, just make sure you keep it up to date. (There are security flaws in the older version that allow WordPress sites to send out spam). 

Cheers,
Erin Rasmussen Web Developer
and System Admin for the server that the Green Building list lives on.
erin at trmiles.com

-----Original Message-----
From: "David Bergman" [bergman at cyberg.com]
Date: 09/26/2011 05:41 PM
To: "sanjay jain" <sanjayjainuk at yahoo.co.uk>, "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Web Design

Whoops. Clicked reply on the wrong email. Here it is again, this time with the right subject line.

I've been working with a many-years-old (at least 10, probably more) version of Dreamweaver (way before it became part of Adobe) and it seems to do most of what I need. But I've never stepped up to using CSS and am probably using a lot of outdated tools and code, etc. Would switching to open source be a good route for me? Can I convert my existing sites easily? And keep my own URL's?

David



At 02:51 PM 9/26/2011, you wrote:
I'd agree with Gennaro, use an Open Source Content Management System (CMS). I like Joomla for sites that change frequently and have lots of editors. Wordpress is probably easier/better if you're the only one making changes.

Also look at Google sites, very easy to use: https://sites.google.com/

~sanjay




From: Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <info at ecobrooklyn.com>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Web Design

I used to be a web producer and have a lot of experience with web sites. The options you list are not the best. I suggest going with an open source content management system. The best one I know of is Wordpress. Check out my site. It is done with Wordpress. An amateur can install it but for a small fee you can get a pro to do it.

Gennaro Brooks-Church

Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231



On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:50 AM, elitalking <elitalking at rockbridge.net> wrote:
I know this may seem off topic with greenbuilding, however, I know that many on this list manage websites.    I have decided to do the same.  I want to promote many of the concepts that are relavant to this list on my site.
 
I am wondering how you manage your website.  Did you get a consultant to develop the format, or did you design it yourself. My inclination is to do it myself.  However, I am finding the HTML code is not intuitive at all.  I am working through the tutorial of a program called Coffee Cup (HTML code editor).  It certainly makes it easier to enter the code and quickly view your results.  However, it does not bypass the need to learn the code.  This program also has a graphic editor which is more intuitive.  However, it does not support HTML5, which I have learned is the latest language being supported by the dominant browsers.  I like that concept of a graphic editor, but if they are not supporting graphic editor with the new HTML versions, it tells me they have trouble with that approach and are fading it out.  The easiest method I have identified yet is converting a MS Word document to an HTML.  It is very intuitive.   I noticed that when I viewed the source code, it was really long, thousands of lines.  I am wondering if this will slow down the loading of the page.  Another program described in my book “Web Design in Easy Steps”, they describe another program call Dreamweaver by Adobe.  The book claims this is a robust program that includes graphic layout features.   I would expect a significant learning curve.  They do not offer trial period installation or return policy.  The cost of program with training is around $200.  No problem if it meets my need.  However, I would like to hear from some who may be using this program.  
 
For those that do not know, you can see the code used on a loaded webpage by right clicking on the page and left clicking the view source. What comes up makes no sense to the untrained eye.  It is the coded instructions to the browser how to display the information on page.  This is an example of taking a thousand words to describe one picture.   
 
Eli 

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