[Greenbuilding] cistern questions
archilogic at yahoo.ca
Fri Aug 3 10:08:51 CDT 2012
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 02:47:13 -0400, John Salmen <terrain at shaw.ca> wrote:
> In terms of aesthetics the generally round access lids are not the nicest
> detail in an interior floor. You can get some cast iron lids that have a
> certain charm or have one custom made that look better than the typical
> plastic ones.
> There is a fengshui thing about being over water - but I think a large
> part of the world lives over water quite happily.
In this corner of MooseLand, the lids for the access hatches tend to be
square or rectangular with a handle that's made from a piece of rebar bent
into a rectilinear horse shoe-like shape cast into the tapered lid.
That sort of a handle might make for interior decorating challenges. But
OTOH, it might be useful for tying-up a misbehaving mutt.
I dropped in to see the neighbourhood septic tank maker when I was
building my home and I was impressed to see that the fellow had cast
finely-detailed little birds, frogs and 4-legged critters when using up
the excess concrete from casting tanks.
I would imagine that Sacie's local septic tank maker could be encouraged
to work with her in designing/fabricating an aesthetically-pleasing access
hatch lid with inobtrusive handle hardware. (Essentially just a standard
concrete lid with some fancy pattern cast into the top surface. ie It
might be a piece of granite (ie a cut-off from the local granite counter
fabricator) laminated to the concrete plug during casting with some brass
Nor would it be a challenge for have him (or her) cast in reinforcement
and points-of-attachment hardware (ie for wall ties to an outer wythe of
4 inch CMU) designed for the somewhat non-standard application.
But I do think that insulation is critical. It'd be a major PITA to try
and replace a cracked (or re-level frost-heaved) septic tank that is the
foundation for a structure above that is attached to a house.
As for Feng Shui (Feng = "wind", Shui = "water") :
Much of what Occidentals are fed as "Feng Shui" is stuff that came from
practitioners who spent most of their working lives in Hong Kong -- a
place of high-rises and asphalt.
Trying to apply Feng Shui in such a situation is akin to teaching a dog
how solve third order differential equations. That's why a lot of "Feng
Shui" that Occidentals (and Hong Kongers) see is silly nonsense based more
in superstitious mumbo-jumbo than empirically-based pragmatism, the latter
being what genuine Feng Shui was about ... basically sizing up a site and
then designing to take advantage of the opportunities that it presents
(ie passive solar for winter heating, summer breezes , proper drainage
There would be no Feng Shui recommendations WRT to building on top of a
pre-cast, reinforced concrete box.
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Rob Tom AOD257
Kanata, Ontario, Canada
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