[Stoves] Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication on stoves all over the world

Tom Miles tmiles at trmiles.com
Sat Nov 6 19:04:16 CDT 2010


Ron,

 

It is a good find. I remember studying this document when we were trying to develop an online database of stoves and stove designs. 

 

GTZ has many interesting and useful documents. I don't think we ever put it on the Stoves site. I remember that they were constantly changing their websites so simply linking to documents didn't work very well. 

 

The list started in about 1996. Alex English started the stoves website in about 1997. We took it over a few years later. We still have your early (1996) discussions about making clay or tincanium charcoal making stoves with Alex English, Elsen Karstad and Richard Boyt.  (Tagging the stories with the right links so they can be found is always a challenge.) 

 

A good candidate is from Alex english:

The Curvacious Charcoal Making Wood Gas Burning Stove (AE's latest test, Sept 11/97)

http://www.bioenergylists.org/content/curvacious-charcoal-making-wood-gas-burning-stove

http://www.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/769

 

Searching by Author works:

http://www.bioenergylists.org/contributors

 

Tom

 

From: rongretlarson at comcast.net [mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:50 PM
To: scda2 at t-online.de; Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
Cc: Tom Miles
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication on stoves all over the world

 

Chris  (cc list and Tom):

   1.  Thanks for forwarding this link (below), which is a new one for me.  There are 2 earlier portions, that can be downloaded as well by changing your "3" below to "1" and "2"  There are many more than 90 pages.  Must be over 5 MB in total.

    2.  This is one of the top books on stoves I have ever seen.  Amazingly complete for contents around the world. Many excellent citations - and wonderful photos.

    3.  This is to ask Tom Miles if he had previously seen this - and if it is somewhere in his huge list of resources.  I just looked       
      (example:     http://www.bioenergylists.org/search/node/1995)

and couldn't find it.  I am wondering how/why it never made it into the "stoves" list discussions.   (Or maybe it did -  it should have.)  It proves (??) we are not a sufficiently all-inclusive community.

    4.  As good as I find it (for 1995),  I don't think there is anything in it of value today to almost anyone on this list.  The "stoves" list started within a year after  this publication - mainly at first talking of charcoal-making stoves.  I cannot find (but I didn't look real closely - hope I am wrong) anything on charcoal-making (top-lit TLUD - or even BLDD), much less the material on Tom's "stoves" list since 2007 (2008?) of TLOD stoves.

    5.  So can anyone point me to anything in this (wonderful historical) document that will be of use in working today on improved stoves?   (The need is certainly shown in this book.)


Part B.   Chris' website:

    1.  I had not been for some time to your website.  You have done some very nice work.  Congratulations.

    2.  I have earlier seen "Biocoal" used in Germany in preference to "Biochar".  Can you give a rationale for the German preference for "coal" over "char"  when coupled with "Bio"?

Ron


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Adam" <scda2 at ymail.com>
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 11:24:23 AM
Subject: [Stoves] Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication on        stoves all over the world

Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication on stoves all over
the world.... ("Stoves Images 1995"):

http://www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/en-stove-images3-1995.pdf

My MFBO (Multi Fuel Bread Oven) is also mentioned on page 39/166:
http://biocoal.org/9.html

cheers
Chris ADAM
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