[Stoves] [biochar] allAfrica.com: Africa: Biochar - Unfulfilled Promises in Cameroon

[rongretlarson at comcast.net]

Kevin and several lists: 

1. You said below: "# I have read the BFW Report. What are the "Selected Quotes" to which you refer? " 

Answer: They were in the cite I gave about a dozen lines earlier (my second line under "2"): 

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar-production/message/833: 

2. I think our discussion on Rademakers and BFW would go better after hearing your response to those quotes (of BFW). 

3. I have more coming on this topic (which I put in a "Box" labeled "BFW" - not "Biochar", and certainly not "stoves"). 

Ron 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin C" <kchisholm at ca.inter.net> 
To: rongretlarson at comcast.net 
Cc: biochar at yahoogroups.com, "Discussion of biomass" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>, "Erich Knight" <erichjknight at gmail.com>, "biochar-policy" <biochar-policy at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:01:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [biochar] [Stoves] allAfrica.com: Africa: Biochar - Unfulfilled Promises in Cameroon 

Quoting rongretlarson at comcast.net: 

> Kevin and ccs: 
> 
> 1. This is getting complicated - as the dialog has shifted from the 
> BFW story on Africa/Rademakers over to the IBI material.prepared by 
> Kelpie Wilson. My perception is that you are looking for specific 
> information from both reports that were not intended and aren't 
> there. So I see no reason to respond to your questions about 
> Kelpie's IBI work . 

# This is not complicated at all: 
a: BFW presents a report on biochar tests 
b. "Defenders of the Faith" demonize BFW, rather than showing where 
their Report is wrong in a factual, scientific, and professional manner. 
c: I made no mention of Kelpie's work. 
d: You would appear to be clouding the issue, to avoid dealing with 
the matter in a factual way. I am amused that you criticize me for 
asking for information that is not in the report, and which the report 
did not intend to convey (why the corn with biochar grew so well), yet 
you do not criticize Erich when he assumes that it was the biochar, 
and not other conditions, that made the corn grow so well. (more 
water, fertilizer, organic matter, manure, compost, better soil in 
general, better test management, etc.) 
> 
> 2. The BFW story was covered on the biochar lists about a month ago; see: 
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar-production/message/833 
> It is unfortunate that this story is started over again on the 
> stoves list. It doesn't belong - there is zero stoves aspect to the 
> BFW story.. 

# You yourself are using the Stoves List as a way to promote biochar 
production! How can you possibly say that the Article has no relevance 
to Stoves? If the BFW Article has a valid basis, then it would suggest 
that the potential for biochar is diminished. Nobody so far has 
refuted their article in a rational manner. Can you? 
> 
> 3. I look forward to hearing your reaction to the selected quotes 
> from BFW's report - which I presume you have not yet read. 

# I have read the BFW Report. What are the "Selected Quotes" to which 
you refer? 

Best wishes for a happy and Prosperous 2012 

Kevin 
> 
> Ron 
> : 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin C" <kchisholm at ca.inter.net> 
> To: biochar at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:37:12 AM 
> Subject: Re: [biochar] [Stoves] allAfrica.com: Africa: Biochar - 
> Unfulfilled Promises in Cameroon 
> 
> 
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