[Stoves] Coal stoves in Mongolia

rongretlarson at comcast.net rongretlarson at comcast.net
Tue Jul 26 21:48:34 CDT 2011


"Fireside" 

A great place to get into this area deeply is at the "bioenergylists" URL given at the bottom of all the messages: 

There it says: 
" This site exists to help people develop better stoves for cooking with biomass fuels in developing regions." 

We get a little on coal - but this is the wrong site for the coal topic. We also have most of our traffic on cook stoves, but heating is fine - if the emphasis is developing countries. We see essentially nothing for developed countries. Low cost is a prime topic. 

If you are developing for the Puget Sound market, you probably won't get much help here. 

Answering your last question - Mongolia has few trees. Many of us (apparently like you) would hope for a non-coal alternative. Mongolia's capital city is apparently the most polluted city in the world - because of coal use. 

But, saying all that, I know the list would have a lot of interest in how you are working efficiently with a single 5 lb log - that is something I don't ever recall hearing on this list. If you can also make char (you talk of "double burn"), many of us would be even more interested. 

Ron 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fireside Hearth" <firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com> 
To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:49:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Coal stoves in Mongolia 


Hello and thanks for responding. 

So lets start with this. I am no where near as educated in the scientific language as this group, no doubt. What I have created is a double burn system which can go for up to 12 hours in one 5 lb log. I see NO SMOKE from our 3"stack once I get to a temperature of over 600 deg. f. Our secondary combustion temps run in excess of 1500 deg. F. creating a smokeless burn for hours, and can be reloaded during use. I do realize that Coal (not a favorite of mine) does burn differently and I would like to test my stove on this fuel so as to have the chance to tweek my unit to burn it cleanly. I am reading and trying to understand all that I can. Sometimes I think that too much science makes things too complex. Maybe being a simple guy without all the math is what helped me do what I did. Either way there is no way of getting around the fact that what this stove does do is to get more heat energy out of the same fuel load, and releasing less into the environment. Both are characteristics necessary for attacking these issues. By the way we watched this work in the puget sound area, why could it not work in Mongolia? 



Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:35:57 +0000 
From: rongretlarson at comcast.net 
To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org 
Subject: [Stoves] Coal stoves in Mongolia 


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