[Stoves] continuous-type rice husk gas stove

Paul S. Anderson psanders at ilstu.edu
Thu Mar 24 09:17:24 CDT 2011


Alexis,

Great progress!!!

1.  I think you mean to say    carbon monoxide and hydrogen     not  
carbon dioxide.

2.  Can you please provide a diagram or explanation of the continuous  
feed operation in the lower part of your new RH stove.  Is there  
occassional human action required to remove the char or to advance  
more rice husks?

3.  Your calculation of the heat being less than   1.5 kW   seems low  
for the amount of visible blue flame that you have.

4.  When and how can other people obtain access to the acutal units  
for testing and for experimentation?

Thanks again for sharing your developments!!!!

Paul
-- 
Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Known to some as:  Dr. TLUD    Doc    Professor
Phone (USA): 309-452-7072   SKYPE: paultlud   Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf   (Best ref.)


Quoting alexis belonio <atbelonio at yahoo.com>:

> Dear Paul,
>
> Good afternoon!
>
> Here in the attached is the info of the continuous-type rice husk  
> gas stove which I recently developed.  I submitted this info to  
> bioenergylists.org for our friends at stove lists serve.  The  
> technology is so promising since rice husk gas can be made available  
> from the stove for cooking without re-starting the stove.  I am  
> doing intensive improvement of this technology and do socialization  
> to prospective users.
>
> Again, thanks a lot!
>
> Alexis
>
> On Thu, 3/24/11, Paul S. Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Paul S. Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
> Subject: Belonio reply to Re: [Stoves] super low-cost and blue flame  
> rice husk gas stove
> To: "alexis belonio" <atbelonio at yahoo.com>, stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Cc: crhet.clsu at gmail.com
> Date: Thursday, March 24,
>  2011, 9:40 AM
>
> Stovers,
>
> Alexis sent this reply that did not reach the Listserv.
> --
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Known to some as:  Dr. TLUD    Doc    Professor
> Phone (USA): 309-452-7072   SKYPE: paultlud   Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
> www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf   (Best ref.)
>
>
> Quoting alexis belonio <atbelonio at yahoo.com>:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good evening and thanks to your email!
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the answers to your clarifications:
>>
>>
>>   Paul wrote the numbered items:
>> 1.  Last line gives the date of February 2010.  Should that be
>  2011?
>>
>>
>> AB:
>> The date of release is last year
>> 2010.  I will send the latest development I have on a continuous rice
>> husk gas stove for domestic use in my next email.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  The downward progression of the pyrolysis front is "a fire zone 
>>
>> rate of about 2.2 cm per minute" and the duration of the batch is from 
>>
>> 18 to 25 minutes.  That gives approximately 2 x 20 = 40 centimeter 
>>
>> height of the fuel chamber/reactor.  Plus burner and base, it is about 
>>
>> half a meter tall.
>>
>>
>>   AB:
>> Yes, the stove is only about half
>> meter and it is good for one cooking preparation only.  I fit in the
>> size to the available materials. 
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  The diameter of the fuel chamber/reactor is (my guess based
>  on 
>>
>> what I can see) about 4 or 5 inches (10 to 13 cm).  Nice size.
>>
>>
>>   AB:
>> Yes, the diameter is only 12 cm
>> suitable for small cooking.  This is more appropriate since big diameter
>>   I usually have are too much for family use.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.  Fantastic!!!!   "the casing is made of tin can and can be bought 
>>
>> at a very low price from a Can Factory;"  Wonderful!!!  Now that this 
>>
>> gets said and gets into production in Indonesia, perhaps the critics 
>>
>> of "tincanium" will finally recognize that the tin can industry is 
>>
>> potentially one of the greatest allies for making low-cost, 
>>
>> ATTRACTIVE, stoves!!!
>>
>>
>>   AB:
>> Yes, the casing is made of salvage
>> perfume drum (industrial-size).  Any
>  available salvage drum even paint
>> drum can be used for the stove casing.  The only disadvantage of this is
>>   that the stove operates in batch mode which is only good for short
>> cooking operation say for camping.
>>
>> Paul adds:  for camping or for cooking tasks that need this amount 
>> of time or less.   Or have a second TLUD that can continue the cooking
>
>>   AB:
>> Again, thanks a lot!  I will send info of the new stove I have soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good day and God bless!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexis
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Paul S. Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Paul S. Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Stoves] super low-cost and blue flame rice husk gas stove
>> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" 
>> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>, "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com>
>> Cc: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'" 
>> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>, crhet.clsu at gmail.com, "Alexis 
>> Belonio - Philippines" <atbelonio at yahoo.com>, "Hugh McLaughlin" 
>> <wastemin1 at verizon.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:01 PM
>>
>> Dear Alexis and all stovers,
>>
>> Once again, a great contribution by Alexis Belonio.
>>
>> Some
>>   minor observations that might later be clarified by Alexis:
>>
>> 1.  Last line gives the date of February 2010.  Should that be 2011?
>>
>> 2.  The downward progression of the pyrolysis front is "a fire zone 
>> rate of about 2.2 cm per minute" and the duration of the batch is from 
>> 18 to 25 minutes.  That gives approximately 2 x 20 = 40 centimeter 
>> height of the fuel chamber/reactor.  Plus burner and base, it is about 
>> half a meter
>  tall.
>>
>> 3.  The diameter of the fuel chamber/reactor is (my guess based on 
>> what I can see) about 4 or 5 inches (10 to 13 cm).  Nice size.
>>
>> 4.  Fantastic!!!!   "the casing is made of tin can and can be bought 
>> at a very low price from a Can Factory;"  Wonderful!!!  Now that this 
>> gets said and gets into production in Indonesia, perhaps the critics 
>> of "tincanium" will finally
>>   recognize that the tin can industry is 
>> potentially one of the greatest allies for making low-cost, 
>> ATTRACTIVE, stoves!!!
>>
>> Well done, Alexis, WELL DONE.
>>
>> Paul
>> --
>> Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Known to some as:  Dr. TLUD    Doc    Professor
>> Phone (USA): 309-452-7072   SKYPE: paultlud   Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
>> www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf   (Best ref.)
>>
>>
>> Quoting Erin Rasmussen <erin at trmiles.com>:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a neat stove, and I've republished the attached file to the stoves
>>> web site so that you can download it there.
>>>
>>> http://www.bioenergylists.org/en/content/super-low-cost-rice-husk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They have done a nice job designing this stove which is now about $10 or so
>>> US, so that it is affordable, and it looks nice.
>>>
>>> And they've done
>  a nice job testing it, black carbon, water boiling and
>>> thermal efficiency results are all posted.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice Work Alexis!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erin Rasmussen
>>>
>>> erin at trmiles.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>>> [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of  
>>> alexis belonio
>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:14 AM
>>> To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>>> Cc: crhet.clsu at gmail.com; atbelonio at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: [Stoves] super low-cost and blue flame rice husk gas stove
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening!
>>>
>>> I would like to submit the development I have on rice husk gas stove.  This
>>> development is on the use of salvage perfume drum as outer casing of the
>>> stove to further reduce the cost of the stove as well as to
>>   utilize small
>>> fan to generate the gas.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks a lot!!
>>>
>>> Alexis
>  Belonio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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