[Stoves] High mass space heating options Re: Rocket Stove for the PLACE

Andrew C. Parker acparker at xmission.com
Tue Oct 11 12:50:44 CDT 2011


Malthusian angst is certainly understandable, if not perhaps supportable.   
It does not, however, justify eugenics, for that is surely what any effort  
at draconian control of population will result in.  If uncontrolled human  
population growth results in widespread human suffering, so be it.  At  
least it will be a result fairly bought by free choice.

I prefer to believe in the innate ingenuity and resourcefulness of humans  
(like designing, promoting and distributing improved stoves).

Also, the most successful tools in voluntary population control are  
prosperity, education and equality of opportunity.  The results take two  
or three generations to kick in, but they are fairly consistent.


Andrew Parker (Not AJH)



On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:55:15 -0600, Fireside Hearth  
<firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Dear Steve,
>
>         I spent most of my adult life teaching people how to heat their  
> homes without smoke coming from the chimney, when I see pictures of  
> areas where bio char is being made I see horrible air pollution from the  
> fires, and then I see trucks burning tons of gas/diesel to move this  
> product long distances and sold so cheap that it's producers really  
> don't get paid much at all for all this effort. I am really not even  
> sure that there is any benefit which has been proven yet. If indeed  
> there is a benefit to our food cycle, then there must also be a way of  
> accomplishing this end without what looks like so much waste and  
> pollution of air, land, and water. I am beginning to think that the only  
> answer is negative population growth......sterilize everyone at birth,  
> and remove a good portion of the overall population.....but where would  
> they go?
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:48:21 +0100
> From: steve at thetaylorfamily.org.uk
> To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] High mass space heating options Re: Rocket Stove  
> for	the PLACE
>
>
>
> On 11 October 2011 04:12, Fireside Hearth  
> <firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Hello Alex.....
>
>      So I guess maybe I am interested in learning about how char is made  
> now and just maybe I might think of ways to make it with less  
> environmental down sides. Any further info would be great, Thanks for  
> your time.
>
>
> I think you need to be more specific about how you think that using all  
> the energy from the rest of the material in a clean way makes the  
> resulting carbon residue have downsides ? The carbon residue is  
> sequestered carbon, ready to be put back into the plant cycle.  
> Slash/burn isn't designed to make char, its designed to clear land.
>
>
> Steve
>
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