[Stoves] New US Patent law change

[Fireside Hearth]

Hi D.D.

       I would say then that we are in agreement that  patenting my stove is a good thing?

           As far as giving away stuff.......right on! I have spent a good a good bit of time also trying to give good ideas to people all around the globe and asking nothing in return. Many times the return I get is to hear that my information was adopted successfully  helped people and places I will never even get to meet. It just sounded from following that particular thread that this practice is only self serving, I view this practice as a way to ensure that I will be able to help others.
R

From: Carefreeland at aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:03:57 -0400
To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
Subject: Re: [Stoves] New US Patent law change









In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:22:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com writes:
 
DD: Dan Dimiduk comments.
Max......

         
  I am genuinely confused by the time spent by this group on the subject of 
  patents. From what I gather most folks on this list are publicly funded. In 
  the case of big business, take Boeing for example, if an employee comes up 
  with a patentable idea on company time........Boeing gets the patent right, 
  not the inventor. Should the folks funding listers get rights to their idea's 
  if a patent is awarded an idea?
         In our 
  case we have used my 26 years in this industry serving a community of 14,000 
  people who were smogging up the air to create a product which can and will 
  make a big difference on a global scale, and are living well below the poverty 
  level so we can fund this project ourselves. My dream is to create a large 
  enough income to be able to devote my life to helping others. Flatly spoken, I 
  will not be able to help anyone with anything without the invention becoming 
  successful. I am not a Paul Allen or Bill Gates who has any interest in 400 
  foot yachts, or football stadiums which only serve to make money on the public 
  ignorance. I guess if I were then this conversation would mean little to me. 
  
         Reading these posts seems 
  as if my wish to secure a patent is an unpopular thing to do. Suggestions like 
  kickstarter, and the like, have been both unfruitful as well as limiting on 
  financial gain. This might help me pay my bills for a while, but that would be 
  the extent. If everyone who has made comment were working on a patent then I 
  guess I could understand the time spent on this issue. If not then I would 
  suggest then anyone publicly funded might find a better use of public money 
  then to debate a subject such as 
  this.

       Sorry if I didn't get the 
  point

              
  Roger



DD, Speak for yourself Roger. Some of us are completely self funded, and 
have devoted a large portion of our lives to specific projects. While giving 
away lots of freebee help to the general public, there are certain projects 
enough in demand by industry to warrant caution. It's not only the royalties I'm 
worried about it's the ability for large entities to patent around an idea and 
keep one from using it to turn a profit.
     I will count on the domination of market to 
develop a change in behavior and socioeconomic impact. If the big boys lock 
things up, it disallows the licensed smaller entities to flourish and take away 
their market share. It's not always as simple or easy as a little twist on an 
old idea or new widget. Some ideas are game changers in the larger scheme of 
things, and very dangerous in the wrong hands. Large firms employ experts 
in industrial espionage. I need something to keep those coyotes away 
anyhow.
    
    Dan Dimiduk  
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