[Stoves] New US Patent law change

[Kevin]

Dear Roger
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  From: Fireside Hearth 
  To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org 
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 6:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Stoves] New US Patent law change


  Hi D.D.

         I would say then that we are in agreement that  patenting my stove is a good thing?

  # Only you can answer that question....
  # You could start by asking yourself:
  1: If I do patent my stove, how much will it cost to patent it, and how much will I earn from it in teh next 17 years?
  2: I I DO NOT patent my stove, how much will I earn from it over the next 17 years?
  3: If I did patent the stove, and some big company in a different Cpountry decided to steal the ideas I patented and make stoves, do I have the money to take them to Court? 

  Best wishes,

  Kevin


             As far as giving away stuff.......right on! I have spent a good a good bit of time also trying to give good ideas to people all around the globe and asking nothing in return. Many times the return I get is to hear that my information was adopted successfully  helped people and places I will never even get to meet. It just sounded from following that particular thread that this practice is only self serving, I view this practice as a way to ensure that I will be able to help others.
  R



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  From: Carefreeland at aol.com
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:03:57 -0400
  To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
  Subject: Re: [Stoves] New US Patent law change


  In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:22:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com writes:

  DD: Dan Dimiduk comments.
    Max......

             I am genuinely confused by the time spent by this group on the subject of patents. From what I gather most folks on this list are publicly funded. In the case of big business, take Boeing for example, if an employee comes up with a patentable idea on company time........Boeing gets the patent right, not the inventor. Should the folks funding listers get rights to their idea's if a patent is awarded an idea?
             In our case we have used my 26 years in this industry serving a community of 14,000 people who were smogging up the air to create a product which can and will make a big difference on a global scale, and are living well below the poverty level so we can fund this project ourselves. My dream is to create a large enough income to be able to devote my life to helping others. Flatly spoken, I will not be able to help anyone with anything without the invention becoming successful. I am not a Paul Allen or Bill Gates who has any interest in 400 foot yachts, or football stadiums which only serve to make money on the public ignorance. I guess if I were then this conversation would mean little to me. 
             Reading these posts seems as if my wish to secure a patent is an unpopular thing to do. Suggestions like kickstarter, and the like, have been both unfruitful as well as limiting on financial gain. This might help me pay my bills for a while, but that would be the extent. If everyone who has made comment were working on a patent then I guess I could understand the time spent on this issue. If not then I would suggest then anyone publicly funded might find a better use of public money then to debate a subject such as this.

           Sorry if I didn't get the point

                  Roger


  DD, Speak for yourself Roger. Some of us are completely self funded, and have devoted a large portion of our lives to specific projects. While giving away lots of freebee help to the general public, there are certain projects enough in demand by industry to warrant caution. It's not only the royalties I'm worried about it's the ability for large entities to patent around an idea and keep one from using it to turn a profit.
       I will count on the domination of market to develop a change in behavior and socioeconomic impact. If the big boys lock things up, it disallows the licensed smaller entities to flourish and take away their market share. It's not always as simple or easy as a little twist on an old idea or new widget. Some ideas are game changers in the larger scheme of things, and very dangerous in the wrong hands. Large firms employ experts in industrial espionage. I need something to keep those coyotes away anyhow.
      
      Dan Dimiduk  

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