[Stoves] thanks
Boston Nyer
boston at burndesignlab.org
Mon Jan 30 19:21:41 CST 2012
Great to meet some of you. Wishing everyone a healthy, happy and
successful 2012.
Cheers,
Boston
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM, <rongretlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> Erin and stove list: This is to follow up Erin's "thanks" message below
>
> There were not too many regular stoves list contributors present, so
> let me start a quick summary from one person's perspective (hope to hear
> where others came away differently). Other list-stovers there were Paul
> Anderson, Damon Ogle, Marc Pare, Christa Roth, Dean Still, and of course
> Erin's dad, Tom Miles. I am sure there were many other "stove" list
> listeners/lurkers among the roughly 100 in Seattle, who I hope will also
> chime in.
>
> Here are some thoughts on the agenda - running chronologically. Most
> sessions (and lunch) were 1.5 hours with half hour coffees. most of the
> time 15 minutes behind schedule - all suitably relaxed. Most all will have
> PPts up in a few weeks. I have not seen this following time schedule on
> the web - so that is art of reason for using this format...
>
> *Friday night. (1.5 hrs? at motel; packed room.)* Maybe 10 different
> presenters of informal slides, short PPts, and a few videos. No
> discussion after any. I believe these will ALL be available through the
> ISU office - perhaps through Nordica MacCarty.
>
> *Sat AM* 1a Intros, ETHOS background, Mark Bryden and Dean Still
> 1b Peter Scott - mostly on his new Seattle area design firm
> (Burn Manufacturing) - easy to find on web. Looks like a large group;
> mostly (?) stoves but also larger. I expressed concern about working on
> charcoal-using stoves - which is about only area where I heard
> disagreements all weekend.
> 1c. ISO activities, John Mitchell (EPA), Christian L'Orange
> (CSM grad student!!), Dean Still and/or one more (name missing); Good
> progress on four protocols and standards. All seemed very happy on
> progress. 3 more topics in the wings - one on sustainability. Everything
> done by 5 "tiers" - apparently solved major problems. Four (later maybe 3
> more) different tier rankings possible for any stove.
> AM 2 - 3 breakouts. I went to ones by Larry Winiarski (rocket
> tutorial) and Christa Roth (really excelelnt new lengthy report from GIZ
> on mostly char-making and gasifiers. on the web.
> PM1 Panel on Biochar , Miles (moderator, short Ppt)); Anderson,
> Jim Grob (short SeaChar ppt), mysel, f Amanda Ravenhill (BABA: Bay Brea
> Biochar Alliance??) Roth , Still ; mostly on five technical pre-stated
> questions. I thought this went well - all comments (?) positive, no
> disagreements on anything; this was tutorial.
> PM 2a - 3 breakout; I attended 3 biochar talks by Robert Fairchild,
> Ravenhill, and Jeff Holiman - all informative and well done
> 2b. Elisa Derby of PCIA - an annual report, showing how they
> are merging this year into GACC - Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves);
> all going well in long-planned transition; they now have 5-year funding.
> 2c. Leslie Cordes on GACC (operating out of the UN
> Foundation in D.C). Very detailed planning five year docs (possibly now
> available on web.). Nothing on different specific types of stoves. Nice
> non-technical brochure available. This is totaling (?) $100 million over
> five years.
> Evening, 3a Iana Aranda - first time attendee talking on
> Evaluation.
> 3b Paul Anderson - one hour well-done,
> non-technical sales pitch on char-making stoves
>
> Sunday AM1 1.5 hour panel on village power (not at all on stoves): 4
> speakers, starting with organizer Prof. Bryden. Also speakers on tying into
> smart grids, optimization, etc.
> 2 3-way breakout again - I attended one on village
> power (Bryden and recent ISU grad Nate Johnson); very detailed energy data
> on one small Mali Village, 4 seasons, lots on stove ownership, use, fuel
> gathering etc. 94% of energy was with wood - mostly gathered without
> difficulty from their own farms. Amazing discard of disposable batteries.
> PM1 Another 3-way breakout. I attended one on solar lamp
> impacts in Uganda (?)(Brown Univ. Senior Furukawa) , Rice husk experiences
> in Vietnam (Georgia Tech recent grad Marc Pare) I thought very
> insightful; working in part now with char-making (MUCH cleaner and more
> efficient (cheaper) than combustion, when firing bricks, 2 Canadians on
> wheat straw pellets (REAP) I missed much to catch ride, but this looked
> well done also.
> PM2 was to be stove demos, but was raining - not sure what
> happened. Hopefully Erin will have some photos.
> PM3 - closing (??)
>
> Maybe half dozen displays - well done. I liked a big (55 gallon drum?)
> good-looking commercial water heater from Aprovecho - said to be very
> efficient. Looked well designed for rockets - but maybe easily converted
> to batch TLUD. Numerous TLUDs brought by Paul Anderson. Much information
> from GIZ (Christa Roth).
>
> Of course much of the benefit of these ETHOS meetings (any meetings) is
> the chance to talk between sessions. Made several new friends and now have
> some new ideas. Glad to learn more about PCIA standards and new GACC
> during breaks.. Also some detailed Engineering talks with people like Marc
> Pare and Dale Andreatta.
>
> One idea I think that deserves more working on is coupling the stoves
> topic with the village power topic - while making char. I have started a
> meeting on that with a knowledgeable TEG friend, with two of the Village
> Power presenters. I think TEGS could eventually be cheaper than PV and,
> unlike solar/wind, is dispatchable.
>
> Hope this is helpful to those who couldn't attend. I intend to write
> something additional for "Biochar"
> Other ETHOS thoughts? Ron
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com>
> *To: *stoves at bioenergylists.org
> *Sent: *Monday, January 30, 2012 12:54:31 PM
> *Subject: *[Stoves] thanks
>
> Thank you very much to all of the kind people I met at the ETHOS meeting
> over the weekend.
>
> I hope to pull together some of the pictures we took and post them this
> week.
>
>
>
> :-) Kind regards,
>
> Erin Rasmussen
>
> TR Miles Technical Consultants Inc.
>
> and BioEnergy Discussion Lists
>
> erin at trmiles.com
>
>
>
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