[Stoves] Cost of stoves

[Paal Wendelbo]

Stovers

Dean and Paul are right if they also adopt the original idea with the TLUD-ND from the 1980ties and see the TLUD as a kind of a wrapping for the fuel; a unit loaded with energy to be put into a stove. Then you will have a lot of more possibilities. You will cover the whole specter of energy needed for household and institutional cooking, bakery and heating, with a lot of warranties of types of fuel, and easy to adjust to local needs and local resources. The technology itself is so simple that a child with a nail, a hammer and a tin can make a perfect clean burning unit. And the most important it will create jobs near connected to the marked philosophy, cheap and short time lasting.   

Paal W


From: Dean Still 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:13 PM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves 
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Cost of stoves

Hi All, 

Columbia University reported at the Forum in Uganda that, in the Millennium Villages in East Africa, a majority of cooks would buy a well made, high performance cook stove if it cost $10. So I'm thinking $10 retail when designing stoves these days. 

Best,

Dean


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:28 AM, David G. LeVine <dlevine at speakeasy.net> wrote:

  On 11/09/2012 08:52 AM, Paul Anderson wrote:

    Dear David and Crispin,

    And where the wages are less than $100 per month (and some of that money is for a reasonable meal during the work day), the labor component is almost negligible compared to the costs of new (not scrap) sheet metal.

    When the stove is ceramic/fired clay, the clay can be cheap but there are the costs of firing it and then transporting it.   So the labor still adds only a relatively low amount to the stove.

    Can these low-income workers (yes, they have a job and they are better off than those without any work) afford a $25 stove?   That would be a week of wages.

    Would any of us who live in the affluent societies pay one week of wages for a stove?   That might depend on your income!!!    And we have discretionary money far above the money needed for food and lodging.

    Paul

  In the USA, many stoves cost between $400 and $2,000 (US dollars), and the mean seems to be about $1,000.  That implies $1,500 in income before taxes.  Which implies an average income of $78,000 annually or $6,500 per month if a stove is one week's income.  While I feel this is high, it is pretty close, 1 week's income for a stove is not unbelievable.

  Yes, those of us who live in an affluent society DO pay 1 week's income for a stove, and then pay a fraction of that every month for fuel or energy to run it.

  Dave  8{)


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