[Stoves] on ocean acidification

Paul Olivier paul.olivier at esrla.com
Thu Jul 4 19:08:43 CDT 2013


In a previous email I had cited an article by Mark Bittman concerning ocean
acidification. Crispin responded to me off-list and said:

*That was the most outrageous set of nonsense on oceans and CO2 I have
seem. What rubbish. *

* The oceans are not acidic.*

*CO2 absorbed by water turns about 1% into carbonic acid, a fragile
composition with a short lifespan.*

*If the oceans were to absorb many many gigatons of CO2 it would become
slightly less alkaline.*

*It seems that Bittman does not even know the most basic facts about oceans
and just attributes everything he sees to ‘AGW’. His writings are not
helping the reputation of science. His view are not informing the
discussion. His conclusions are worthy of ridicule.*

*Fish and mollusk populations rise and fall with the food supply. When the
PDO changed in 1976 there were also large population shifts. It has shifted
again. The shift is 100% natural and has nothing to do with human fuel use.*

 I replied to his email as follows:

*Please do not label everything that you disagree with as rubbish,
nonsense, or as worthy of ridicule. It is hard to conduct a debate when you
use such language.

I would like to draw your attention to the following:
* *http://www.sightline.org/research/northwest-ocean-acidification/
http://www.sightline.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2012/02/OA-primer1.pdf
* *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification
*
*http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification
* *http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F

*
*I would like to ask the members of this stove list: why do we go about
designing stoves? Are we only concerned about poor people in developing
countries who sit around dirty campfires? Or do we want to design stoves
that at the same time address important issues such as climate change,
global warming and ocean acidification?
*
Thanks.
Paul
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