[Stoves] on ocean acidification

[M. Nurhuda]

To my knowledge, water ocean is not alkaline, but salty.

Salty material is considered neutral, but it depends on how the salt
composition. NaCl is neutral, but Na2CO3 is more base. When CO2 reacts
with fresh water, it forms H2CO3, which is acid.

Regards
M. Nurhuda



> In a previous email I had cited an article by Mark Bittman concerning
> ocean
> acidification. Crispin responded to me off-list and said:
>
> *That was the most outrageous set of nonsense on oceans and CO2 I have
> seem. What rubbish. *
>
> * The oceans are not acidic.*
>
> *CO2 absorbed by water turns about 1% into carbonic acid, a fragile
> composition with a short lifespan.*
>
> *If the oceans were to absorb many many gigatons of CO2 it would become
> slightly less alkaline.*
>
> *It seems that Bittman does not even know the most basic facts about
> oceans
> and just attributes everything he sees to ‘AGW’. His writings are not
> helping the reputation of science. His view are not informing the
> discussion. His conclusions are worthy of ridicule.*
>
> *Fish and mollusk populations rise and fall with the food supply. When the
> PDO changed in 1976 there were also large population shifts. It has
> shifted
> again. The shift is 100% natural and has nothing to do with human fuel
> use.*
>
>  I replied to his email as follows:
>
> *Please do not label everything that you disagree with as rubbish,
> nonsense, or as worthy of ridicule. It is hard to conduct a debate when
> you
> use such language.
>
> I would like to draw your attention to the following:
> * *http://www.sightline.org/research/northwest-ocean-acidification/
> http://www.sightline.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2012/02/OA-primer1.pdf
> * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification
> *
> *http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification
> * *http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F
>
> *
> *I would like to ask the members of this stove list: why do we go about
> designing stoves? Are we only concerned about poor people in developing
> countries who sit around dirty campfires? Or do we want to design stoves
> that at the same time address important issues such as climate change,
> global warming and ocean acidification?
> *
> Thanks.
> Paul
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