[Stoves] Fwd: from K Smith [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health

[Tom Miles]

Thanks Paul

 

Health issues clearly are of interest. 

 

Not everyone in the stoves community will want to receive regular
information about health. I suggest two mechanisms: 

1.      Kirk can subscribe us (tmiles at trmiles.com) and we can repost
information of interest to the Stoves list. 

2.      If there is a signup URL we can post it on the stoves list and link
from the stoves website to Kirk's list or archives.   

 

Regards,

 

Tom

 

 

From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Anderson
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:51 AM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Kirk Smith; Jay Smith; Hugh
McLaughlin
Subject: [Stoves] Fwd: from K Smith [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health

 

Stovers,

I have recently started to receive Kirk Smith's messages in his personal
[stove] listserv.   Note that it is different from the [Stoves] listserv
(capital S and plural s).  I wonder what messages I (and others) have missed
in the past.   Of course, his focus is on health issues, which have not been
sufficiently addressed in the Stoves Listserv.   Krik, is there an Archive
of your previous messages?

And who else is on BOTH the [stove] and [Stoves] listserv?     

(to Tom M. and Erin, how can we address this needed linkage?   I think that
Dr. Smith is appropriately focused on "health + stoves" and does not need
the full "everything + stoves" that is on the Stoves Listserv.   It is we
Stovers who what his "health" element added into our "everything" medley. )

I am forwarding Smith's message because it is certainly of interest to us
Stovers.   And I add these comments:

1.  The item correctly names coal burning stoves as a problem.   But I will
anticipate Crispin's rely by saying that I agree with Crispin that there are
not bad fuels, just bad stoves.   And that the breakthroughs about improved
coal burning stoves are just starting to become known and they need further
research.  

2.  Remember, there are many different types of coal, so look for successful
clean burning for a specific stove with a specific type of coal, and
celebrate and advocate that success, rather than dwell upon the
NON-successes of other stoves with other types of coal.  

3.  The GACC needs to embrace the coal stoves as well as the biomass stoves
and the stoves that use "other" fuels like biogas, LPG, etc.   

4.  Crispin has experience with coal burning stoves in Mongolia.   Some are
TLUDs.   Claims are that some are quite clean burning.   GETTING THIS
INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US SHOULD BE ONE OF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES
OF THE GACC AND ACESS.  GACC claims to be "stove neutral".   But it is not
"stove agnostic".   Time for us all the be more knowledgeable about
coal-burning stoves, and the GACC and ACESS represent us and have access to
funding.

Enjoy Kirk's book review.

Paul





Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com



-------- Original Message -------- 


Subject: 

[stove] Smoked out: Coal and health


Date: 

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:03:10 -0700


From: 

Kirk R. Smith  <mailto:krksmith at berkeley.edu> <krksmith at berkeley.edu>


To: 

Kirk R. Smith  <mailto:Krksmith at berkeley.edu> <Krksmith at berkeley.edu>



Part of a special issue of Lancet on China's health, June 8, 2013.  Note my
emphasis on the household pollution from coal, which was missed by the book
I reviewed/k

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