[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1 Topic 2

Alex English english at kingston.net
Sun Mar 3 09:00:49 CST 2013


Cecil,
In the absence of an official personal response,

"Unless otherwise stated, numerical ranges given in square brackets in 
this report indicate 90% uncertainty intervals (i.e. there is an
estimated 5% likelihood that the value could be above the range given in 
square brackets and 5% likelihood that the value could be below that
range). Uncertainty intervals are not necessarily symmetric around the 
best estimate"
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf

The pretty global maps, whether they are generated by satellite or model 
data seldom include error bars or high and low alternates. They are a 
picture worth a thousand words and we can't tell if any are misspelled. 
If you would like some more;

http://www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6319.full.pdf

Alex


On 03/03/2013 3:24 AM, Cecil Cook wrote:
> Dear stove scientists and climatologists,
>
> I accessed this article in its pre-publication form at no cost from 
> the following URL
>
> <ehs.sph.berkeley.edu/krsmith/publications/.../lam_est_2012.pd 
> <http://ehs.sph.berkeley.edu/krsmith/publications/.../lam_est_2012.pd>.>
>
> The article is hard going for me, let's say a bit opaque, as a person 
> who last studied physics in high school.
>
> I am once again reminded of the risks of doing 'hard' science where 
> there are so many unknowns and so many assumptions have to be made by 
> researchers to construct a model about the relationship between the 
> black carbon emitted by the wicks of illuminating lamps and something 
> as gigantic as the average temperature balance of the planet.
>
> Unlike the cultural and social sciences (I am an anthropologist), 
> where informants can and eventually do talk back and rebuke 
> researchers when they stray too far off course and begin 
> making ridiculous claims about the culturally and socially constructed 
> worlds that particular informants are reputed to inhabit, Black Carbon 
> does not have its own consciousness and voice.  Therefore BC cannot 
> censure errant climatologists when they deviate too much from reality 
> when they as researchers - who are honestly trying to understand the 
> role of BC in the climate system - fall victim to their own mad hatter 
> assumptions about a devilish complex planetary climate system.
>
> Unfortunately, the climate system does not have the consciousness, 
> agency and voice in spite of what Kirkpatrick Sale says about Gaia. 
>  The climate scientists presume to speaks for Gaia and when they 
> succumbs to the temptation of playing science politics with the world 
> climate system they run the risk of losing their way in the forest of 
> his self created forest of symbolic representations of the how the 
> planet's energy balances are maintained, and how such a 'fragile' 
> system is possibly threatened by the careless actions of humans who 
> create too much BC to light up the night.
>
> We know what a world of trouble Michael Mann, Lord Stern and their 
> colleagues have gotten themselves into by hyper-interpreting their 
> climate data.  In the end their assumptions overpowered their common 
> sense and perhaps their honesty and they permitted the politics of 
> science to determine the assumptions they made about man's role in 
> destabilizing and forcing the climate of the planet toward a 
> hotter equilibrium.  Hotter than what? Hotter than the climate present 
> we have known for the last hundred years?
>
> I see there are 90% uncertainty ranges for all of the figures used in 
> this article.  I do not feel very confident with such a big range of 
> variation.  How would climatologists like it if I said that if a 
> particular stove using group is exposed to a particular improved or 
> advanced cookstove that 50% of the households in this stove using 
> group will buy that stove within the next 12 months with +/- 90% 
> uncertainty.  If there were 1 million household in this group,that 
> statistic indicates that 500 000 households can be expected to buy the 
> better stove on offer with a range of variation around predicted 500 
> 000 households of a low of 50 000 households and and high of 950 000 
> households. Maybe I have misunderstood what 90% uncertainty bounds 
> mean.  Have I?  I do not know the usefulness of numbers that vary from 
> 50 000 households and 950 000 households.  That is not much of a 
> prediction in my part of the scientific enterprise. What is being 
> measured? Whose uncertainty is at issue here?  Is it a measure of the 
> ambiguity of the researcher or the methods used for measuring BC and 
> its forcing effects, or what?
>
> Lastly, I would like a climatologist who is well informed about the 
> role of BC to explain why there is not more BC over South Africa.  Is 
> it possible to differentiate the signals of BC from illuminating 
> kerosene from the BC signals emitted from the much greater combustion 
> of kerosene in 'Panda' stoves and space heaters which have round wicks 
> that are about 30 cm in circumference and burn kerosene at a rate of 1 
> liter a a day for cooking and space heating during the cold months (or 
> up to 30 liters a month at $1.20 a day or $36 a month).  The use of 
> these Panda heaters, although outlawed by the SA Bureau of Standards, 
> is still prevalent because the stoves are so cheap (under $10) and 
> they can space heat and cook at the same time.  The collection of 
> firewood has become a class indicator so women in most townships do 
> not like being seen carrying head loads of firewood.
>
> I would estimate there are 10 to 15 million kerosene stoves in the 
> townships and villages of SA each of which uses a minimum of 30 liters 
> of kerosene a month during the winter and perhaps 15 liters a day 
> during the summer months for cooking.  Should not the burning of 30 
> litres a month x - being conservative let us say - 7 500 000 kerosene 
> burning stoves in South Africa - or 225 000 000 litres a month of 
> kerosene.  Would not the burning of 225 million liters of kerosene a 
> month in South Africa produce a significant Black Carbon signal in the 
> atmosphere over our fair country?
>
> This is not my field so I am ignorant enough not to be embarrassed by 
> my ignorance.
>
> In search of answers,
>
> Cecil Cook
> Sundance Farm
> South Africa
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Dean Still <deankstill at gmail.com 
> <mailto:deankstill at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Otto,
>
>     Yes, I'll be in Cambodia.
>
>     I think that informing users of kerosene lamps how they can get
>     rid of the soot could be helpful just as making other options
>     available is a great idea.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Dean
>
>
>     On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Otto Formo
>     <terra-matricula at hotmail.com <mailto:terra-matricula at hotmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>
>         Dear Dean and Crispin,
>
>         But you need to buy Kerosene, which costs close to two US $
>         per litre in Zambia, and are still fossil fuel.
>
>         We prefer waste biomass as fuel, for free and available
>         everywhere.
>
>         Will you be attending the conference in Cambodia?
>
>         Otto
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:37:04 -0800om: deankstill at gmail.com
>         <mailto:deankstill at gmail.com>
>         To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>         <mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>         Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1 Topic 2
>
>         http://www.aprovecho.org/lab/pubs/video-gallery
>
>         Hi Crispin,
>
>         I agree that blaming kerosene instead of the lamp for making
>         soot misses the opportunity to fix the problem not by
>         switching fuels but by just fixing the lamp. Kelley Grabow and
>         Ed Wilson did dome preliminary investigation shown in a video
>         above that seemed to indicate that fixing the lamp might be
>         pretty simple.
>
>         Best,
>
>         Dean
>
>         On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Geoff Thomas <wind at iig.com.au
>         <mailto:wind at iig.com.au>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Crispin that link required some un-related password to
>             do with Microsoft.
>             >
>             <https://mail.chemonics.net/exchange/emdelate/Drafts/RE:%20[Stoves]%20Gas%20Bottle%20TLUDs.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg
>             <https://mail.chemonics.net/exchange/emdelate/Drafts/RE:%20%5bStoves%5d%20Gas%20Bottle%20TLUDs.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg>>
>             No way it could be viewed.
>             Cheers,
>             Geoff.
>
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>             >   2. Re: Gas Bottle TLUDs (Elisha Moore-Delate)
>             >   3. Re: [biochar] Re:  ~Stoves and STEM education~
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>             > Message: 1
>             > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:07:23 -0500
>             > From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott"
>             <crispinpigott at gmail.com <mailto:crispinpigott at gmail.com>>
>             > To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
>             >       <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>             <mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>>
>             > Subject: Re: [Stoves] Skoll article on HAP research
>             > Message-ID: <00ce01ce15ef$3a1b7c90$ae5275b0$@gmail.com
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>             > Dear Christina
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Thanks for the pointer.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > For the benefit of readers I would like to raise one
>             point about the emissions and the fuel.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > ?Getting Good Data Could be Easy
>             >
>             > ?If solid fuel cook stoves and kerosene lanterns are
>             used in the same households, then getting the answers we
>             need may be straightforward and low cost. While in the
>             field, mothers being surveyed about their use of solid
>             fuel cook stoves could also be asked a few questions about
>             their use of kerosene for lighting. Some additional field
>             observations could be recorded. Existing resources
>             allocated to studies planned for cook stoves research
>             could be very easily leveraged to quickly and
>             inexpensively begin to build a body of knowledge about the
>             effects of kerosene lighting.?
>             >
>             > The article also says that ?A recent Environmental
>             Science and Technology <mailto:http
>             <mailto:http>://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es302697h
>             <http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es302697h>>  article
>             reports that as much as 10% of kerosene smoke is pure
>             black carbon (soot) ? 20 times higher than previous
>             studies had found.?
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > The black carbon content of kerosene smoke is highly
>             variable. It depends on what lantern is used and the power
>             setting. The article speaks as if the emissions are
>             created by the fuel and that worries me. This is an old
>             fashioned view. It is like saying that ?wood is a smoky
>             fuel?. It depends on the stove that is burning the wood,
>             and how, doesn?t it? There is no doubt that one lantern
>             may create 20 times as much black carbon particles as
>             another lantern, but this tells us nothing about the fuel,
>             it tells us about the lanterns.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > One alternative to a smoky kerosene lantern is a clean
>             burning kerosene lantern.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Regards
>             >
>             > Crispin
>             >
>             >
>             >
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>             >
>             > From: Stoves
>             [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>             <mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>] On
>             Behalf Of Christina Espinosa
>             > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:50 PM
>             > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
>             > Subject: [Stoves] Skoll article on HAP research
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Here is an article about stoves and kerosene you all
>             might find of interest:
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             https://skollworldforum.org/2013/02/27/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-a-call-to-action-for-better-indoor-air-pollution-research/
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>             > Message: 2
>             > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:26:20 -0500
>             > From: "Elisha Moore-Delate" <emdelate at chemonics.com
>             <mailto:emdelate at chemonics.com>>
>             > To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves"
>             >       <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
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>             > Subject: Re: [Stoves] Gas Bottle TLUDs
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>             > Thanks Crispin. Appreciate the lovely photos and info.
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>             > From: Stoves on behalf of Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
>             > Sent: Tue 2/26/2013 11:26 PM
>             > To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
>             > Subject: Re: [Stoves] Gas Bottle TLUDs
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>             >
>             >
>             > Dear Elisha
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > What a great idea - so many harmonies.  In Mozambique
>             old gas bottles are widely used as charcoal cooking pots,
>             cut lengthwise from tip to bottom, after the valve has
>             been removed.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > They last a really long time.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Here are two types, one with the cylinder used
>             vertically, one horizontally.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             <https://mail.chemonics.net/exchange/emdelate/Drafts/RE:%20[Stoves]%20Gas%20Bottle%20TLUDs.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg
>             <https://mail.chemonics.net/exchange/emdelate/Drafts/RE:%20%5bStoves%5d%20Gas%20Bottle%20TLUDs.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg>>
>             >
>             > Baseline charcoal stoves in Maputo, Mozambique
>             >
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>             > Regards
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>             > Crispin
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>             > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:50:00 +0530
>             > From: nari phaltan <nariphaltan at gmail.com
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>             > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
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>             > This might be of interest to the stovers that kerosene
>             can be made into a
>             > very clean burning fuel just like LPG.
>             > http://www.cseindia.org/userfiles/Lantern%20that%20cooks.pdf
>             >
>             > Cheers.
>             >
>             > Anil
>             >
>             > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Christina Espinosa <
>             > c_espinosa1 at u.pacific.edu
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>             >> Here is an article about stoves and kerosene you all
>             might find of
>             >> interest:
>             >>
>             >>
>             >>
>             https://skollworldforum.org/2013/02/27/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-a-call-to-action-for-better-indoor-air-pollution-research/
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>             > Subject:      Re: [Sfpnotices] Green Energy Solves Dual
>             Crises of Poverty
>             > and Climate
>             > Date:         Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:23:44 -0500
>             > From:         Robert Korol
>             > To:   Sfp Notices-list" <sfpnotices at physics.utoronto.ca
>             <mailto:sfpnotices at physics.utoronto.ca>>
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Carla - thank goodness we are getting the power houses
>             of our economic engines like the*World Bank*  on side with
>             respect to green energy.
>             >  Maybe there is hope for the world after all!
>             >
>             > Bob
>             >
>             > On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:42:37 -0500
>             >  "Carla"<carla.wong at utoronto.ca
>             <mailto:carla.wong at utoronto.ca>>  wrote:
>             >> Source:
>             >>
>             >>
>             http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/02/green-energy-solves-dual-crises-of-poverty-and-climate/
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> Green Energy Solves Dual Crises of Poverty and Climate
>             >>
>             >> By Stephen Leahy
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> UXBRIDGE, Canada, Feb 25 2013 (IPS) - Green energy is
>             the only way to bring
>             >> billions of people out of energy poverty and prevent a
>             climate disaster, a
>             >> new study reveals.
>             >>
>             >> Conservative institutions like the World Bank, the
>             International Energy
>             >> Agency and accounting giant Price Waterhouse Coopers
>             (PwC) all warn humanity
>             >> is on a path to climate catastrophe unless fossil fuel
>             energy is replaced by
>             >> green energy.
>             >>
>             >> The U.N.'s/*Sustainable Energy for All*/  initiative
>             intends to bring universal
>             >> access to modern energy, doubling the share of
>             renewable energy globally,
>             >> and doubling the rate of improvement in energy
>             efficiency by 2030.
>             >>
>             >> Poverty eradication, sustainable development and the
>             transition away from
>             >> fossil fuel energy go hand in hand.
>             >>
>             >> If those targets are met and similar efforts undertaken
>             to*reduce
>             >> deforestation*, then climate disaster can be avoided,
>             said Joeri Rogelj of
>             >> the<http://www.iac.ethz.ch/>   Institute for
>             Atmospheric and Climate Science
>             >> in Zurich  who headed the analysis published Sunday in
>             the journal
>             >> <http://www.nature.com/nclimate/index.html>  Nature
>             Climate Change.
>             >>
>             >> "Poverty eradication, sustainable development and the
>             transition away from
>             >> fossil fuel energy go hand in hand," Rogelj told IPS.
>             >>
>             >> The U.N.<http://www.sustainableenergyforall.org/>
>              Sustainable Energy for
>             >> All (SE4All)  initiative is ambitious, but brings a
>             wide range of benefits
>             >> including improvements in health, less air pollution
>             and makes the
>             >> all-important break from increasing fossil fuel energy
>             use. The analysis
>             >> shows the costs of SE4All is far less than the public
>             subsidies the fossil
>             >> fuel industry currently receives, he said.
>             >>
>             >> Nearly three billion people still use fire for cooking
>             and heating. Of
>             >> those, some 1.5 billion people have no access to
>             electricity. For a billion
>             >> more, their only access is to sporadic and unreliable
>             electricity networks.
>             >> Indoor air pollution from burning dung, charcoal, and
>             wood for heating and
>             >> cooking leads to nearly two million premature deaths of
>             women and children
>             >> every year, more than all the deaths from malaria and
>             tuberculosis.
>             >>
>             >> Dirty fossil fuel energy is also a major health hazard
>             in industrial
>             >> countries, responsible for 50,000 to 100,000 premature
>             deaths and 400
>             >> billion dollars in health costs a year in the U.S.
>             alone, said Mark Jacobson
>             >> an energy expert at Stanford University in California.
>             >>
>             >> "In the European Union, it is 350,000 premature deaths
>             a year," Jacobson
>             >> told IPS.
>             >>
>             >> SE4All was first announced in 2009. "Energy interacts
>             with all of the
>             >> development challenges we face," Kandeh Yumkella,
>             director-general of the
>             >> United Nations Industrial Development Organisation
>             >>
>             <http://www.ipsnews.net/2009/06/development-green-energy-for-all-by-2030/>
>             >> told IPS at the launch.
>             >>
>             >> Energy experts calculate that decentralised, off-grid
>             technologies like
>             >> wind, solar, geothermal and micro-hydro energy
>             generation are the fastest
>             >> and most cost effective solutions. Extending current
>             electrical grids only
>             >> makes economic sense to meet 15-20 percent of the need
>             due to the high
>             >> costs.
>             >>
>             >> SE4All is well under way now, with more than 50
>             developing countries working
>             >> on national plans to achieve the three goals of
>             universal access, increasing
>             >> renewable energy, and doubling the rate of improvement
>             in energy efficiency.
>             >>
>             >> Since 80 percent of human carbon dioxide emissions come
>             from the global
>             >> energy system, Rogelj and colleagues at the
>             International Institute for
>             >> Applied Systems Analysis in Laxenberg, Austria wanted
>             to quantify the impact
>             >> on the global climate.
>             >>
>             >> "Achieving the three SE4ALL objectives could put the
>             world on a path towards
>             >> global climate protection," they
>             >>
>             <http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1806.html
>             >>> conclude in their paper "The UN's 'Sustainable Energy
>             for All' initiative
>             >> is compatible with a warming limit of 2 ?C".
>             >>
>             >> "Doing energy right will promote the Millennium
>             Development Goals, such as
>             >> poverty eradication and social empowerment, and at the
>             same time kick-start
>             >> the transition to a lower-carbon economy," says IIASA
>             researcher David
>             >> McCollum, who also worked on the study.
>             >>
>             >> "But the U.N.'s objectives must be complemented by a
>             global agreement on
>             >> controlling greenhouse gas emissions."
>             >>
>             >> Even if the targets are achieved, explosive economic
>             growth coupled with
>             >> greater energy use will overwhelm the climate
>             protection benefits of SE4All.
>             >> "There is an explicit need for a global cap on
>             emissions," said Rogelj .
>             >>
>             >> Global carbon emissions were about 52 gigatonnes
>             (billion metric tonnes) in
>             >> 2012 and that means fossil fuel energy use must decline
>             so emissions are
>             >> about 41-47 Gt by 2020 to have a reasonable chance of
>             keeping global warming
>             >> below two degrees C.
>             >>
>             >> The shift to green energy is under way. Every new
>             megawatt added to the U.S.
>             >> electricity supply in January came from renewables, and
>             more than half of
>             >> all new electricity generation in 2012 was also from
>             renewables, not gas as
>             >> often believed.
>             >>
>             >> Iceland has 81 percent renewable energy. Scotland has a
>             mandate to achieve
>             >> 100 percent renewable power supply by 2020. Denmark
>             passed laws requiring
>             >> that the whole energy supply - electricity,
>             heating/cooling, and
>             >> transportation - be met by renewable resources.
>             >>
>             >> Stanford's Jackobson, among others, have proposed
>             detailed plans on how to
>             >> meet 100 percent of the world's energy needs with green
>             energy. Jacobson
>             >> believes it could be done as soon as 2030.
>             >>
>             >> Costs for the SE4All plan are relatively modest at
>             between 30 and 40 billion
>             >> dollars a year, a fraction of the 523 billion dollars
>             in subsides for dirty
>             >> energy in 2011, according to the International Energy
>             Agency. By 2030, 300
>             >> billion dollars a year will be needed to bring
>             electricity into every home
>             >> on the planet and prevent catastrophic climate change.
>             >>
>             >> Fossil fuel emission reductions will have to continue
>             after 2030 and
>             >> eventually decline to near zero in order to stay below
>             two degrees C, said
>             >> Rogelj.
>             >>
>             >> - See more at:
>             >>
>             http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/02/green-energy-solves-dual-crises-of-poverty-and-climate/#sthash.bCVEtR8U.dpuf
>             >>
>             >>
>             >
>             > - - - - - - -
>             > Robert Korol
>             > Professor emeritus, Civil Engineering
>             > McMaster University
>             >
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