[Stoves] Stove Definition

[rongretlarson at comcast.net]

Erin - cc Lanny. Thanks for the addition. I may be wrong, but I don't think this form of cooker is much in the GACC playbook for WBT4.2.1 drafting (and maybe shouldn't there). I'll look carefully - as this is by far the best way to save money and keep CO2 out of the atmosphere. Unfortunately I don't see a way to tie this cooker into biochar. (This is a favorite topic for solar cooks.) 

But I am only responding because you were following up with Lanny. Taking his last line from below 
"Just to confuse things, would you call a pig on a stick, over a fire a stove?" 

I would answer emphatically "no" (as I think we all would), but it should be listed among the better (and rarely used) ways to make charcoal, whch obviously all stoves should do.. 

Going further, there probably is lot to be gained (for biochar) also by promoting more "fire walking" as practiced in the South Pacific. But I digress. 

Other "cooker" approaches to advancing biochar? 

Ron 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com> 
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:06:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition 




We also use "cooker" when we're talking about retained heat cooking. There's no fire there, so not a 'stove' but the food still does a fine job of cooking away in the insulated basket. 



Erin 





From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Lanny Henson 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:24 AM 
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves 
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition 




Kevin, thanks for stirring the pudding. 

I believe we are using “Cooking Stoves” as a term that covers all cooking appliances like ovens, griddles, grills, roasters, vat cookers and other types of cookers. 

If you said “cooking appliance” many people would not know what you were talking about, but “stove” is well known word that translates well. 

The word “cooker” would cover stoves, food cooking appliances, as well as non food, industrial type cookers, so “cooker” may be a good word to toss in when talking about “stoves”. 

Just to confuse things, would you call a pig on a stick, over a fire a stove? 

Lanny 






----- Original Message ----- 


From: Kevin 


To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves ; Frank Shields 


Cc: 'Jim Jetter' ; 'Hugh McLaughlin' ; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' 


Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:50 PM 


Subject: [Stoves] Stove Definition 





Dear List 





Just what is a "stove?" 





I would suggest that it is important that we all know what a "stove" is, when we attempt to determine the difference between a "good stove" and a "poor stove.' 





When we ask Mr. Google, we get more than 7 million hits. However, the most common definitions seem to be typified by the one at 


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stove 


" 1 a : a portable or fixed apparatus that burns fuel or uses electricity to provide heat (as for cooking or heating) " 





At http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ , the stated purpose of the site is: 


" Our site is dedicated to helping people develop better stoves for cooking with biomass fuels in developing regions. " 





What about accepting the Merriam-Webster definition for a "stove?" 





Would anyone have a better definition for a "stove?" 





Best wishes, 





Kevin 






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