[Stoves] A wisdom of Rebecca's stove

Lloyd Helferty lhelferty at sympatico.ca
Wed Sep 4 12:49:49 CDT 2013


Crispin,

   Someone /does/ have "a [TLUD] stove that can use the fuel remaining" 
-- but /also/ makes biochar.   It's called a "T-Char" stove:



... and it is up the "user" to decide whether to keep the char (for the 
soil) or "burn it down to ash".

I can't comment on the overall "Efficiency" of the device (or its 
derivatives), however.

Regards,

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On 2013-09-04 12:27 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
> Dear Ron
>
> I am not sure why you use the word 'rebuttal'.
>
> >   a.  I am going to wait for release of the 72 slides from the EPA 
> webinar to answer much of this
>
> I think that is a good idea.
>
> > - since I am mostly trying to defend the material there, which is at 
> great odds with Crispin's approach (which I still do not understand)
>
> With respect to the issue of fuel remaining after a test, we are in 
> agreement. The slides may explain it to your satisfaction.
>
> >   b.  I note that Crispin did not rebuttals one of my points,
>
> Rebut??
>
>  [RWL4:   In the first sentence, assuming that Crispin's  "cannot" 
> includes "is not designed to", I would interchange the terms "under" 
> and "over".  This is getting back to the issue of apples and oranges - 
> where I believe there is some validity in adding them - if/when one is 
> consciously attempting to maximize both, they are expressed in the 
> same (energy) units, and are calculated with equivalent formulae.
>
> Both what? The apples are *stoves that can burn the remaining fuel*. 
> The oranges are stoves that cannot.*If someone has a stove that can 
> use the fuel remaining* and chooses not to, that is a feature of the 
> user, not the stove and does not affect the rating given to the stove. 
> We don't rate what people do.
>
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