[Stoves] Summer Stove Camp 2015 Agenda

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott crispinpigott at outlook.com
Tue Jul 28 23:06:54 CDT 2015


Dear Jed

 

Something else from my own market survey stash is that the LSM 2-4 (which is approximately in your target range) takes about 4 months between making a decision to buy a stove and accumulating the money necessary to do so. People don’t spend that much money on impulse. 

 

I agree they could make a deal with the fuel supplier. However why would the fuel supplier get into business like that if they are going to sell less fuel in the long run?

 

Cecil and I worked out that in Maputo, if the stove reached everyone, the savings were $25m a year. That is a heck of a market drop for the vendors. Also, if that happened, over-supply would drive down the price of charcoal saving everyone even more – but running a lot of vendors out of business. 

 

I is never as simple as it seems.

 

Regards

Crispin

 

From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Guinto
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 23:13
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Summer Stove Camp 2015 Agenda

 

Thanks Crispin, These are valuable thoughts. .... Im also thinking that there would also be such price mechanisms on the fuel side. ... that is the payment could be arranged in the fuel purchases instead to pay for the stove in increments. 

There was another arrangement that the payment could be in terms of carbon buy backs from the char making stoves. 

REgards

Jed 

 




Joshua B. Guinto
Specialist, Appropriate Technology

MSc Management of AgroEcological Knowledge and Social Change (MAKS)

Wageningen University, The Netherlands 2006 to 2008

Recipient, International Fellowships Programme (IFP) 2005

Ford Foundation 

 

 

2015-07-29 10:56 GMT+08:00 Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com> >:

Dear Jed

 

It is great that you have market segments with known price ranges and expectations. Cecil Cook found that there was a good question to ask when doing such research. It is, “How much cash can someone accumulate in their pocket (in day’s wages) before it starts to leak out.”

In Lusaka that was about 10 day’s income. At 11 day’s income it starts to disappear through additional routes. Thus if the day’s wage was $0.25 the maximum incidental purchase would be $2.50.  If it was $1.00 it was $10.00. This is independent of willingness to pay, just ability to gather cash. It is a valuable number.

If an improved, or greatly improve stove, costs more than 10 day’s wage in the target category, they would not buy it. If it was ‘lay by’ at the shop until paid for, the amount tripled (because the shop keeper was only willing to do that for 2 months). Finance options are important.

Regards

Crispin

 

 

Stoves sold greater than

                          1:  greater than $ 17.77 and beyond: business persons

                          2 : between  $ 7.77 to 17.77  regularly employed workers

                          3 : between  $ 7.77and 2.22 partly employed workers, street food vendors

                          4:  below $ 2.22 marginal families 


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