[Stoves] TLUDs and China Re: Why is it still so difficult to design cookstoves for 3 billion people?

Mangolazi mangolazi at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 23 01:45:06 MDT 2016


I did a quick scan for wood stoves on Tmall.com and Taobao.com, 2 of the most popular ecommerce sites in China. Most were simple rocket types for camping costing <100 yuan. There were a few ND TLUDs for camping costing around 100 yuan, all looking like they came from the same factory. 

I found only one manufacturer selling forced draft TLUDs for home kitchens. Prices are between 500-1000 yuan. The website is at www.wpjn88.com. See attached pix for more info. You can search for more stoves on Chinese e-commerce sites by typing in 柴炉 (firewood stove) or 柴气(wood gas). 

On my visits to farm houses up in the mountains of western China, I've never seen a TLUD type stove. Cheap ~200 yuan cast iron chimney stoves are common. Is there a market for biomass stoves in large developing countries like India and China were electricity and LPG are becoming cooking fuels of choice? I don't know, it would be nice to find out from academics and policy makers in those countries. 

On June 21, 2016 11:28:10 AM GMT+08:00, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>Todd,
>
>Please use your China connections to get the data collected from there.
> 
>I have near-zero China contact.   Nor do the I of IL students and most 
>other places with internship.  If the data does not come from China, 
>then it will not enter into the recorded history.
>
>Paul
>
>Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
>On 6/20/2016 6:22 PM, Todd Albi wrote:
>> Paul:
>>
>> Thanks!  We will add that to our "To Do" list, but recognize as a 
>> commercial stove & cookware enterprise with numerous types of stoves 
>> (TLUDS, Rocket Stoves, Solar Stoves, Biomass Ovens, and related 
>> products), our plate is full with ongoing product developments and 
>> projects that align more with the scope and priority to our
>organization.
>>
>> The factual History of TLUD's is a suitable project for an
>internship, 
>> perhaps you have a student intern candidate?  As /Dr. TLUD, /the 
>> importance of a project of this scope is more in your sphere of 
>> interest.  Possibly you can rally the support of University of 
>> Illinois or another educational institution to provide funding.
>>
>> Perhaps an actual appropriate GACC spend?   If not, I would think
>this 
>> is a project of great interest for you to champion.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Todd //
>> /
>>
>> ​9 Watt Teg Side Fed TLUD Prototype
>> /
>>
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