[Stoves] Ghana Cook Stove

[Nikhil Desai]

Christa:

Thank you for the clarification. What are "fuel containers"? And what is
the size/type range they can take?

I wonder if this stove was reviewed by the D-Lab people for GACC.

Nikhil

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Nikhil Desai
(US +1) 202 568 5831
*Skype: nikhildesai888*


On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:05 AM, CHRISTA ROTH <stoves at foodandfuel.info>
wrote:

> Actually  the stove is shown twice on that webpage, but I agree it is not
> very prominently featured and you need to know what you are looking for.
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> Also the info on the webpage is misleading when it comes to the pricing. I
> confirmed with Veronica Kitty from the ASA intitative that t*he 250 USD
> of the loan is for FIVE stoves*.
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> So each complete double-burner stove costs 50 USD and there is not much
> profit margin on it.
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> For cost efficiency ASA prefers to give out larger loans and use group
> coherence as a collateral, thus the loan size of 250 USD received by one
> person on behalf of a group of five people.
>
> This is the photo on the website showing the double burner in the phase of
> lighting one of the two fuel containers, so the potsupports from sturdy
> re-inforcement bars are not yet on.
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> below is a photo of the double-burner stove after cooking, when it can
> also be used as a table...
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> I hope that clarifies some questions raised
> best regards
>
> Christa
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> Am 10.08.2017 um 08:11 schrieb Dr.Ch.ADAM <scda2 at t-online.de>:
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> Hmm,a lot of photos about drilling machine, pots, vegetable, woman,
> pretending toe be a nicely done homepage-
> *but not a single photo showing well the new stove* !!?? !!
> Chris ADAM
> https://medium.com/@Kiva/finding-a-green-local-solution-to-a-deadly-
> household-chore-7e61f0283691
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> Betreff: Re: [Stoves] Ghana Cook Stove
> Datum: 2017-08-09T14:50:10+0200
> Von: "Nikhil Desai" <pienergy2008 at gmail.com>
> An: "exiledspirit at gmail.com" <exiledspirit at gmail.com>, "Discussion of
> biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
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> Some followup:
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> ASA Initiative's record on Kiva website is not so positive -
> https://www.kiva.org/about/where-kiva-works/partners/392.
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> Average cost to borrower is 33% per year, delinquency rate is 59.33%,
> loans at risk are 73.99%, default rate is 5.1%.
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> With do-gooders like these, selling $250 stoves, there has to be a Gold
> Standard fakery.
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> Nikhil
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> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> The headline is sheer hype, considering that the first picture shows
>> traditional mud stove outside the dwelling.
>>
>> At $250 a stove, no surprise that the ASA has made only 99 stove loans so
>> far.
>>
>> Not terribly positive. Sounds more like selling "green" in the "green
>> loans".
>>
>> At least these stove makers didn't have to go through the route of
>> boiling water in test centers with dubious protocols, equipment and
>> metrics. It is good to read "ASA worked with the community to determine the
>> shape, size and color of the stove as well. The original design came from
>> Italy, but they received feedback that the legs that weren’t strong and
>> stable enough and that the color, a bright orange, was offputting."
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>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Nikhil Desai
>> (US +1) 202 568 5831
>> *Skype: nikhildesai888*
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Daniel-John Peterson <
>> exiledspirit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Positive story from Ghana here. Any comments on this article?
>>>
>>> https://medium.com/@Kiva/finding-a-green-local-solution-to-a
>>> -deadly-household-chore-7e61f0283691
>>> _______________________________________________
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