[Stoves] Who paid for development of popular improved stoves. (was...Re: "Those of us who believe that the WBT is critical to stove improvement")

[Paul Anderson]

Crispin and all,

You wrote:
> Most of the popular improved stoves were developed on the public 
> nickel, not by individuals with the possible exception of the Sarai 
> Cooker which has several hundred producers. I think that was done 
> privately.
Please include most of the variety of TLUD stoves as being privately 
developed.  (reference is the "Origins and History...." document at 
www.drtlud.com )   Wendebo and Reed did efforts that were side issues of 
their employment.  My work as a retired professor only had some funds 
for 2 years in 2010-2012 from the BEIA project in Uganda.  P. Mukundan's 
company Servals did the production design work for the stainless steel 
Champion TLUD at its own expense.  The more-then-40,000 Champion TLUDs 
in West Bengal have had zero public funding, and we thank atmosfair 
(German private carbon credit entity) for its investment.  I am not sure 
how much public funding Prof. Nurhuda received (probably not much, if 
any), but his stoves now sold via Prime are not supported by public 
money.  Maybe there are other cases, but not known to me.

What stoves are you considering as having been developed with 
considerable (total or %) public funds?   Let their stories be told, if 
relevant.
KCJ
Rocket
Envirofit
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Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 12/17/2017 1:06 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
> Dear Nikhil
>
> *>>…*we will continue to discover more because lab assessments are 
> cheap and replicable and urgently needed. "
>
>
> >This is one example of promising R&D you could propose in the C4D 
> discussion; I will start there too.
>
> Good idea. It is the right audience.
>
> >…But why hasn't this been done in the past? I think it is because of 
> this obsession with fuel efficiency and extraneous goals in the 
> standard-setting exercise.
>
> I don’t think so. The WBT was largely used by enthusiasts trying to 
> invent the better mousetrap that would have the world beating a path 
> to their door. After 30 years, that still hasn’t happened. Most of the 
> popular improved stoves were developed on the public nickel, not by 
> individuals with the possible exception of the Sarai Cooker which has 
> several hundred producers. I think that was done privately.
>
>
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