[Stoves] Please help locate people

[Y. Iwan BASKORO]

hi Paul,
I am here in the list.
What can I do for you?

best,
iwan baskoro

On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 PM, "Paul Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Stovers,
>
> I am trying to reach each of the men named below:   Zhang, Durix, Baskoro
> and Dong.  associated with a recent (undated, but probably late-2016)
> conference presentation:
>
> TOWARD UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO CLEAN COOKING
> INDONESIA CLEAN STOVE INITIATIVE
> Prepared by
> Yabei ZHANG (Task Team Leader)
> &
> Laurent DURIX (Co-Task Team Leader)
> Presented by
> Yohanes Iwan Baskoro
> Biomass Energy Promotion Practitioner
> at 2016 Forum of Renewable Energy Promotion in Developing Countries
> Beijing, People’s Republic of China
>
> The chairman of the Forum was Dr.  Renjie Dong
>
> This is an extremely interesting and valuable 27-slide PowerPoint
> presentation that I read last night.  I am trying to determine the
> following:
>
> 1.  Is this presentation available on the Internet?  Will it be, by
> whom?
> 2.  If not available, can I have permission to place it at one of my
> websites and announce its availability?
>
> 3.  What are the email contacts for these men?
> 4.  Who has access to the data / results that are summarized in the
> presentation?  Especially, who has control of the results of the testing of
> the thirty stoves (out of over 50 stoves submitted) that are reported in
> slides 18 to 22?
>
> 5.  Of the 30 stoves tested, 14 are shown with results on slide 19.  16
> others were not reported.
>
> 6.  In particular, on slide 22, is the following:
> "The cleanest and most efficient stoves could not be made available [in
> Indonesia's RBF - Results Based Financing - incentive program] (too
> expensive for international and production issues for the Indonesians
> [stoves])"
>
> 7.  In my opinion, this is extremely valuable data, paid for by the World
> Bank and others, that have not been released, not even (as far as I can
> determine) to the companies that had a stove in that group of 16.   That
> data should be released, at least to the companies that submitted stoves.
>
> 8.  Note:  On slide 19 showing the 14 included stoves, the price range is
> from ~US$ 8.50 (two stoves) to ~US$ 17 (five stoves).   Clearly, any stove
> costing more than US$20 was virtually excluded, regardless of its
> performance.   For many of those "international stoves", merely the
> shipping costs could have made them non-competitive in the Indonesia
> program.   NOTE:  This is NOT a criticism of the Indonesian efforts, which
> actually should be highly commended.
>
> 9.  And now as of 2016, we know from the Deganga Case Study (
> drtlud.com/deganga2016 ) that a TLUD stove that costs US$32 at the
> factory in India (no international shipping charges in this case) can
> actually be sold to many thousands of people for only $15 in projects with
> carbon credit assistance.   With carbon credit assistance, that stove could
> have been a major participant in the Indonesia efforts, and could have
> begun production in Indonesia by now.  Lost opportunities.
>
> So, please help me get the cited presentation available for all of you to
> read, and to have clear contact with the people in Indonesia who can
> provide the requested data.
>
> By the way, the presentation also has extremely interesting information
> about Indonesia's LPG stove project with 54 million (by 2012, so now maybe
> 60+ million) packages of stove and LPG cylinder distributed for free.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
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>
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