[Stoves] Coal and biomass in India (Re: Ron)

[Traveller]

Andrew:

I am an old man, but I do 10-finger typing on an old IBM keyboard. I have
used some "cut and paste" when I am quoting others and "cut" option is
available (otherwise I write it out).

And I do type quite slowly. Thinking and research take up 80% of the time
for my posts; I wouldn't challenge Ron until I was absolutely sure of my
sources and my language. Sometimes I write but save drafts, then finish
several quickly and send out. (I have more than 100 incomplete drafts for
this list! I still owe Ron a reply on my 28 sins of impudence.)

*****

Anyway.  when I asked Ron - "not be interested in emissions from coal
combustion? Or you only want to save people from biomass smoke and not coal
smoke?" I meant cooking stoves ONLY, as confirmed in the GACC sponsored study
New Report Tracks Household Energy Emissions for 640 Districts in India
<http://cleancookstoves.org/about/news/03-15-2016-new-report-tracks-household-energy-emissions-for-640-districts-in-india.html>,
to Emissions – Household Cooking & Heating
<http://www.indiaairquality.info/emissions-cooking-heating/>.

I stand absolved of the crime of shooting a "straw man". This is not about
general air pollution or PM2.5 from other sources.

Yes, the "emissions" in this study are "manufactured" - or in polite
language, "estimated by models". But I commented earlier that this study is
path-breaking (or something similar). This kind of matching meteorological
data with source apportionments and emission rates on the ground -- I don't
know the details of the model yet -- can be incredibly useful in creating
scenarios of "attributable" v. "avoidable".

Stay tuned. There is lot more in this ISO IWA song-and-dance confusing
"attributable" with "avoidable". Kirk Smith warned about that two years
ago.

Nikhil



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On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8 January 2017 at 07:13, Traveller <miata98 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> In fact so much snipped I am amazed about the output from your
> terminal, is it cut and pasted or do you really type so fast on the
> fly? I'm limited by my two fingers and occasionally looking up at the
> keyboard to see what I have actually typed.
>
> > not be interested in emissions from coal combustion? Or you only want to
> > save people from biomass smoke and not coal smoke?
>
> And of course this is where the straw man enters.
>
> We have frequently said this is a discussion about cooking stoves
> fueled by biomass. Yes we do have a few excursions into other topics,
> like pollution from dust, diesels and burning rubbish  and also
> interesting illustrations from other types of combustion or mitigating
> air pollution but the main topic remains.
>
> With the number of subscribers we need to remain focussed because  the
> "noise" generated by the larger discussions on financing research, the
> need for carbon sequestration etc. simply distract and detract from
> the discussion of [stoves]
>
> Andrew
>
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