[Stoves] Biomass stoves v. PV-induction cooking (re: Frank)

Ronal W. Larson rongretlarson at comcast.net
Tue Jan 31 11:00:40 CST 2017


List:

	I’d like to hear which persons on this list can endorse this first “irrelevant" sentence below?  

	Whew!  No wonder he’s down on everything said on this list.

Ron


> On Jan 27, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Traveller <miata98 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Frank: 
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> The stumbling block to progress are irrelevant performance metrics - fuel consumption and emission rates for, heavens, BOILING WATER! 
> 
> Electricity and gas folks are skewered by ultra-Greens for their fuel-cycle GHG emissions, just to make sure the earth is balanced on the backs of the poor. 
> 
> But they had an advantage - the purportedly "exhaustible" fuels were used some four times over what was supposedly "left in the ground" in 1970 and the purportedly "renewable biomass" was costly, inaccessible, or had better uses. (Even that 1909 Journal of Home Economics article said there are superior uses of wood in America than burning it in the hearth.) 
> 
> Unless the biomass folks stop obsessing over bean-counting and manufacturing "co-benefits" in health, climate, livelihoods and women's empowerment - in other words, unless they get their heads out of the firebox and put ":cook" back in "cookstoves", they will keep arguing among themselves. 
> 
> After all, they seem to want to ensure that their egos are sufficiently fed. The ethos of ETHOS, I might say. 
> 
> I am tempted to put a slogan below my signature - "Usable Stoves Suited to Contexts", or USSC. Think I will raise $300+ million? :-) 
> 
> Nikhil
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> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:11 AM, Frank Shields <franke at cruzio.com <mailto:franke at cruzio.com>> wrote:
> My only point was that at the rate and direction we Stovers are heading the pv  people, no matter how many years, will likely solve the problem before we do regarding smoke.
> Frank
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