[Stoves] Working to reduce emissions from wood burning appliances in the UK

Michael N Trevor mntrevor at gmail.com
Thu Jul 27 03:34:29 CDT 2017


At 15 years neither will many of u8s on this list

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 27 July 2017 at 04:11, Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Andrew:
> >
> > If Londoners are very wasteful of energy,
>
> That is a gross mis interpretation of what I wrote: it is a luxury
> good because of its price-demand  and people like looking at a flaming
> fire. Because it is chopped up and delivered in small quantities it
> works out  far more expensive than the "normal" fuels which in London
> are likely to be gas and elctricity. In the circumstance of a
> centrally heated dwelling who use an open fire the fire is likely to
> eject more heat from the room up the chimney than it puts into the
> room (largely by radiation).
>
> >
> > I guess I don't need to belabor my point. If you have kept your Jotul 602
> > for 30+ years, there was enough reason, I am sure.
> >
> > I remember reading in the summary of the UK wood energy use survey 2015
> that
> > a half of the wood-using household heaters were 15 or more years old.
> >
> > If the replacement rate by new Ecodesign stoves is that slow, pollution
> > spikes will recur.
>
>
> It's a good point, capital cost verses reduced running costs, and my
> gas boiler (a non condensing type) is over 20 years old, a replacement
> should convert more of the energy in the gas to heat for the wet
> system but would take about 15 years to recoup and I very much doubt a
> modern boiler will last that long.
>
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