[Stoves] List of woods for TLUDs?

neiltm at uwclub.net neiltm at uwclub.net
Mon May 1 12:47:02 CDT 2017


Thanks for these replies.

Frank, sorry if I've missed something obvious, I've been a bit over 
occupied with family traumas, but could you please point me towards your 
test package?

Thanks,   Neil Taylor

On 28 Apr 2017 at 13:50, Frank Shields wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> I believe the test package I put together would answer your questions.
> That because when working on the procedures and selecting the different
> tests I had what you are referring to in mind. They include test like:
> Moisture, size distribution, particle shape, particle density, bulk
> density, void space (for air flow), volatiles and fixed carbon using the
> pipe method, Ash and ash properties, - I think that is about it as I
> remember. I had some other ideas using air flowing artificial TMsmokeTM
> but to lack of interest never followed through. 
> Then we need to correlate the results from the above tests to determine
> how they relate to a stove performance. That I never attempted but I do
> think I have all the methods and tests that is appropriate to do the job.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 10:01 AM, neiltm at uwclub.net wrote:
> > 
> > I live in the UK, so my references below to species of wood are biased
> > for this part of the world.
> > 
> > I have been looking for information about the burn quality of different
> > woods, but mostly can only find information relating to open fires.
> > 
> > Poplar in its various sub species is generally rated low as a desirable
> > burning wood, and described as 'smoky'.  I just burned some dried
> Italian 
> > poplar in the Reed sl woodgas campstove, and although it made a smoky 
> > start, which was probably down to my lighting technique or lack thereof,
> > once underway it burned completely smokelessly and with no stinging of
> > the eyes until just before the end when it again produced some smoke 
> > briefly.
> > 
> > I would like to understand more about the qualities of different woods
> in 
> > relation to TLUD stoves and wondered if anyone has ever attempted to 
> > classify or rate woods for these stoves?  I understand that some woods
> > like hornbeam, plum, hawthorn are the most dense (highest mass), and 
> > therefore likely to liberate more heat or a longer burn per batch, and
> > that woods like willow or poplar are at the lighter end of the
> spectrum.
> > 
> > With poplar in particular I would like to understand why it is a smoky
> > wood, which it is if you burn it on an open fire?  Should that not mean
> > it produces more wood gas, thereby making it ideal for TLUDs?  I have
> yet 
> > to find a problematic wood for these stoves unless it is our cultivated
> > apricot in the garden which has always been truly terrible, even when 
> > dry.  Yet fruit woods are supposed to be prized!
> > 
> > Neil Taylor
> > 
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> Thanks
> 
> Frank
> Frank Shields
> Gabilan Laboratory
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