[Stoves] new finding about your Champion stove
Paul Anderson
psanders at ilstu.edu
Thu Nov 23 22:40:20 CST 2017
Cheng,
You did not send your reply to the Stoves Listserv (only to me), so I
send it, with my reply below that.
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com
On 11/23/2017 9:31 PM, lh cheng wrote:
> Dear Dr Anderson and stovers,
> I attached some pictures of the plate-covering( I'd like to call it
> gas-valve ) and its effect, captured yesterday.
>
> There was something greatly puzzled me this morning. Decreasing the
> gas output, leading to more secondary-air demand! After putting on the
> gas-valve, much smoke appeared immediately. After exclude all other
> causes, it is for sure lacking of secondary-air that causes the
> smoke. after leaving a gap under the concentrator disk, smoke
> disappeared. very interesting. it is possible that that smaller blue
> flame can produce more heat than large red flame, but it is very hard
> to imagine that less gas output lead to more air demand. that is too
> strange.
>
> best regards.
I now see that you use your cover plate as a control valve. That is
not correct method. TLUD stove gas output is controlled by the entry
of the primary air. Please read more of the documents about TLUD
stoves. You are learning by experience what has been established earlier.
At the same time, your experiment with the oats on the fuel bed is
something new..
Doc
>
> 2017-11-23 12:10 GMT+08:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu
> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>>:
>
> Stovers,
>
> I introduce you to Ih Cheng of China. He has some interesting
> TLUD research / experiments that you can read about below. Read
> about the impact of oatmeal!!!! And does it realate to the more
> blue flames from rice husk gasifiers? It will be better for
> him and everyone if he can interact with many Stovers.
>
> I hope that some of you will replicate his work and report to
> everyone. Do not wait for someone else to do it.
>
> Paul
>
> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
> Skype: paultlud Phone:+1-309-452-7072 <tel:%28309%29%20452-7072>
> Website:www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>
> On 11/22/2017 7:00 PM, lh cheng wrote:
>> Dear Dr Anderson,
>> I have submit a subscription application. you are free to use any
>> message from me. and thank you.
>>
>> this morning I tried another bigger plate, almost got the effect
>> I want. steady smaller flame(just partially blue), longer burning
>> time. it's safe to say the plate-covering works fine.
>>
>> 2017-11-22 23:19 GMT+08:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu
>> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>>:
>>
>> Dear Cheng,
>>
>> I greatly appreciate your message below. You are doing
>> interesting things.
>>
>> I would like to post my message (below) to the Stoves
>> Listserv. About 900 subscribers around the world. And I
>> hope that you will subscribe (free) at
>> stoves.bioenergylists.org <http://stoves.bioenergylists.org>
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email: psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
>> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>> Website: www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>>
>> On 11/22/2017 12:52 AM, lh cheng wrote:
>>
>> sorry for the late response, I have some trouble to break
>> through GFW
>> to access gmail sometimes.
>>
>> I am a Chinese, lived in Zhenjiang, Jiangsu province,
>> east part of
>> China. I just found the wood stick on the hill is so
>> plenty so I try
>> to build a stove to burn it. I tried rocket stove and
>> your fantastic
>> Champion stove, which is best of all.
>>
>> As for the oat, just a little(crashed pieces, with hot
>> water, it can
>> be eaten immediately), maybe 10g? a lot of details I
>> wanted to
>> describe to you yesterday. but I don't want to bother you
>> with such
>> details. since you want to know, I am glad to explain
>> now. when I
>> loaded the fuel, I added a layer of dry oat on top of it,
>> then I start
>> to lit the fuel with some easy-lit materials, very hard
>> to lit them. a
>> lot smoke, and I blow and blow, finally succeeded. then
>> that blue
>> flame came out. and it burns for a very long time, twice
>> longer maybe
>> than ordinary case. very steady, and I did not have to
>> limit the
>> primary air all the time as I normally did.
>>
>> this morning I did some experiments on my TLUD stove, I
>> just covered
>> the fuel with a plate while the flame got strong enough.
>> there was
>> some insignificant effect. not obvious. I will try a
>> bigger plate next
>> time.
>>
>> I am so glad to receive this email from you so fast.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> 2017-11-21 23:04 GMT+08:00, Paul Anderson
>> <psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>>:
>>
>> Dear Cheng,
>>
>> By now you have probably seen my message that names
>> you and your link to
>> the Fyro stove. Thanks for that!!
>>
>> Please send me more information about yourself.
>> Location, etc. and plans.
>>
>> Please tell me more about the layer of dry oat. At
>> the top, as a
>> starter material? How much? Full grains or just oat
>> chaff/hulls?
>> Will you be trying again? And with more?
>>
>> Looking forward to your next message.
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email: psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
>> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>> Website: www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>>
>> On 11/20/2017 11:27 PM, lh cheng wrote:
>>
>> Dear Dr Anderson:
>> I have made a TLUD-ND stove after your Champion
>> stove, it works very
>> well that I abandoned all the rocket stoves I
>> previously made.
>> I write to you because I will report to you some
>> discoveries I've got
>> today, maybe very important.
>>
>> This morning I add a layer of dry oat( just for
>> fun ) on the fuel.
>> then something wonderful happened. the flame
>> became small, blue and
>> stable. this kind of effect is very hard to
>> achieve in ordinary case.
>> this kind of flame is very hot, stable and clean.
>> I know the project
>> in india about your champion stove through DrTLUD
>> website, Champion
>> stove is rejected by more wealthy family because
>> it blackened the
>> pot's bottom somehow. Another defect of the
>> TLUD-ND stove is that, it
>> is pretty hard to turn down the fire-power, when
>> the flame is already
>> strong. A solution for these two problems is
>> limitting the primary air
>> from above, not from under.
>> When I found the perfect flame this morning, I
>> remembered a video (
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1maX3o4174k
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1maX3o4174k> ),
>> posted by Dieter Weber.
>> he invented a Side-Lit-Up-Draft stove, limmitting
>> primary air from
>> above, he explained the mechanism and the effect
>> of his stove in the
>> video.
>> that's all.
>>
>> and, I am a Christian, I truly hope you are a
>> christian already, so
>> that the Lord will reward you for your good work
>> not only in this
>> world, but also in heaven.
>>
>> God bless you.
>>
>> your truly
>> Cheng
>> 2017-11-21
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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