[Stoves] Fwd: new finding about your Champion stove

Thu Nov 23 23:04:32 CST 2017

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From: lh cheng <lhkind at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-11-24 11:31 GMT+08:00
Subject: Re: new finding about your Champion stove
To: Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>

Dear Dr Anderson and stovers,
I attached some pictures of the plate-covering( I'd like to call it
gas-valve ) and its effect, captured yesterday.

There was something greatly puzzled me this morning. Decreasing the gas
output, leading to more secondary-air demand! After putting on the
gas-valve, much smoke appeared immediately. After exclude all other causes,
it is for sure  lacking of secondary-air that causes the smoke. after
leaving a gap under the concentrator disk, smoke disappeared.  very
interesting. it is possible that that smaller blue flame can produce more
heat than large red flame, but it is very hard to imagine that less gas
output lead to more air demand.  that is too strange.

best regards.

2017-11-23 12:10 GMT+08:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>:

> Stovers,
>
> I introduce you to Ih Cheng of China.  He has some interesting TLUD
> research / experiments that you can read about below.  Read about the
> impact of oatmeal!!!!   And does it realate to the more blue flames from
> rice husk gasifiers?      It will be better for him and everyone if he can
> interact with many Stovers.
>
> I hope that some of you will replicate his work and report to everyone.
> Do not wait for someone else to do it.
>
> Paul
>
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072 <(309)%20452-7072>
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
> On 11/22/2017 7:00 PM, lh cheng wrote:
>
> Dear Dr Anderson,
> I have submit a subscription application. you are free to use any message
> from me. and thank you.
>
> this morning I tried another bigger plate, almost got the effect I want.
> steady smaller flame(just partially blue), longer burning time. it's safe
> to say the plate-covering works fine.
>
> 2017-11-22 23:19 GMT+08:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>:
>
>> Dear Cheng,
>>
>> I greatly appreciate your message below.   You are doing interesting
>> things.
>>
>> I would like to post my message (below) to the Stoves Listserv. About 900
>> subscribers around the world.   And I hope that you will subscribe (free)
>> at stoves.bioenergylists.org
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>
>> On 11/22/2017 12:52 AM, lh cheng wrote:
>>
>>> sorry for the late response, I have some trouble to break through GFW
>>> to access gmail sometimes.
>>>
>>> I am a Chinese, lived in Zhenjiang, Jiangsu province, east part of
>>> China. I just found the wood stick on the hill is so plenty so I try
>>> to build a stove to burn it. I tried rocket stove and your fantastic
>>> Champion stove, which is best of all.
>>>
>>> As for the oat, just a little(crashed pieces, with hot water, it can
>>> be eaten immediately), maybe 10g? a lot of details I wanted to
>>> describe to you yesterday. but I don't want to bother you with such
>>> details. since you want to know, I am glad to explain now. when I
>>> loaded the fuel, I added a layer of dry oat on top of it, then I start
>>> to lit the fuel with some easy-lit materials, very hard to lit them. a
>>> lot smoke, and I blow and blow, finally succeeded. then that blue
>>> flame came out. and it burns for a very long time, twice longer maybe
>>> than ordinary case. very steady, and I did not have to limit the
>>> primary air all the time as I normally did.
>>>
>>> this morning I did some experiments on my TLUD stove, I just covered
>>> the fuel with a plate while the flame got strong enough. there was
>>> some insignificant effect. not obvious. I will try a bigger plate next
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I am so glad to receive this email from you so fast.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>>
>>> 2017-11-21 23:04 GMT+08:00, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>:
>>>
>>>> Dear Cheng,
>>>>
>>>> By now you have probably seen my message that names you and your link to
>>>> the Fyro stove.   Thanks for that!!
>>>>
>>>> Please send me more information about yourself.   Location, etc. and
>>>> plans.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me more about the layer of dry oat.    At the top, as a
>>>> starter material?   How much?   Full grains or just oat chaff/hulls?
>>>> Will you be trying again?   And with more?
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your next message.
>>>>
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>>>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>>>> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>>>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:27 PM, lh cheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Dr Anderson:
>>>>> I have made a TLUD-ND stove after your Champion stove, it works very
>>>>> well that I abandoned all the rocket stoves I previously made.
>>>>> I write to you because I will report to you some discoveries I've got
>>>>> today, maybe very important.
>>>>>
>>>>>   This morning I add a layer of dry oat( just for fun ) on the fuel.
>>>>> then something wonderful happened. the flame became small, blue and
>>>>> stable. this kind of effect is very hard to achieve in ordinary case.
>>>>> this kind of flame is very hot, stable and clean. I know the project
>>>>> in india about your champion stove through DrTLUD website, Champion
>>>>> stove is rejected by more wealthy family because it blackened the
>>>>> pot's bottom somehow. Another defect of the TLUD-ND stove is that, it
>>>>> is pretty hard to turn down the fire-power, when the flame is already
>>>>> strong. A solution for these two problems is limitting the primary air
>>>>> from above, not from under.
>>>>>   When I found the perfect flame this morning, I remembered a video (
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1maX3o4174k ), posted by Dieter Weber.
>>>>> he invented a Side-Lit-Up-Draft stove, limmitting primary air from
>>>>> above, he explained the mechanism and the effect of his stove in the
>>>>> video.
>>>>> that's all.
>>>>>
>>>>> and, I am a Christian, I truly hope you are a christian already, so
>>>>> that the Lord will reward you for your good work not only in this
>>>>> world, but also in heaven.
>>>>>
>>>>> God bless you.
>>>>>
>>>>> your truly
>>>>> Cheng
>>>>> 2017-11-21
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
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