[Stoves] Is this Off Topic?? Fwd: Re: [biochar] Where to discuss STOVES AND CARBON offsets and drawdown

Nikhil Desai pienergy2008 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 17 16:31:41 CDT 2017


Paul:

Not all belly buttons are enticing.

Carbon drawdown and earning carbon credits are totally different concepts
and approaches. In the voluntary carbon market, you may get some "fenced"
market just for biomass cookstoves, but otherwise competing with other
suppliers of emission reductions. I don't know of any CDR markets - outside
of REDD+ perhaps, which I know very little about - but those markets are
likely to be more competitive.

There is no basis for quantifying "health benefits" from particular source
emission reductions.

Nikhil

On Sep 13, 2017, at 12:08 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

Philip,

There are two aspects:

1.  Debate about  whether there is climate change.   My response is:
Opinions are like navels (belly buttons).  Everybody has one.  (the
originally mentioned body part is a different one (and not the nose or
mouth).)    I have other things to do in my life than enter into that
debate.

2.  Discuss possible actions that involve cookstoves that could cause
carbon drawdown (or earning carbon credits).   This is not about if it
should be done, but is about how it can be done.   And even more important
is to actually be doing actions.  And to do those actions, some funding
would be very appropriate and useful to get the stoves into use.   And if
funding comes from people who are motivated by climate change, that money
is just as good as money from people motivated by health reasons..   Even
better if both, but one is sufficient.   And I think that carbon (climate)
issues could be more motivating than are the health issues (at least to
some potential sources of grants, gifts, loans or sales of carbon credits.)

I am watching to see what messages come via the Stoves Listserv.

Paul


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On 9/12/2017 10:47 AM, plloyd at mweb.co.za wrote:

Is it that you feel debate is over, or that this the wrong place for the
debate? Philip

Sent from my Huawei Mobile


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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Is this Off Topic?? Fwd: Re: [biochar] Where to
discuss STOVES AND CARBON offsets and drawdown
From: Paul Anderson
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves ,Nikhil Desai ,Tom Miles ,"
biochar at yahoogroups.com"
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With apologies to all Stovers (including Crispin),

___ I ____ am stopping this topic on the Stoves Listserv.   No further
reply.

Paul
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