[Stoves] Fwd: [climate and stove] Not all fossil fuels are the same

lh cheng lhkind at gmail.com
Wed Feb 28 16:57:14 CST 2018


I guess Todd's SilverFire stove is one of the most advanced stoves in the
world. but look at its performance in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRHIPyb1TA , it smokes pretty much under a
unskilled user. that will be a disaster for sure if inside a house by a
housewife. we must face the accident and solve it. we must imagine the
worst case and avoid it before hand.

Even the most advanced tlud biomass stove is not suitable for
everyday-indoor-cooking, for the time being.

2018-03-01 6:40 GMT+08:00 lh cheng <lhkind at gmail.com>:

> Why do we take the media or certain organization so seriously?  there are
> so many schemes there, manipulation there. today there exalt the topic of
> climate change, tomorrow they say user health is more important ( it is
> true, dead clock can be right sometime ).  if we follow their schemes, we
> are trapped, in lies. and because some of us want something from media or
> organization? why? if the product or idea or design is good, we can get
> reward from market, with our own hands, with truth.
>
> There are problems hidden in the biomass-stoves,  Dr Anderson have a good
> hunch that, pellet is a good direction for solving many problems.
>
> 2018-03-01 4:38 GMT+08:00 Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com>:
>
>> Please find post from Paul below and the attached image which is a page
>> of text. I had to reduce it considerably so quality is poor but legible
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>> From: Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
>>> To: Stoves and biofuels network <Stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:43:14 -0600
>>> Subject: Fwd: [climate and stove] Not all fossil fuels are the same
>>> Stovers (especially of the biomass variety)
>>>
>>> The item below from Kirk Smith (who is one of the co-authors) tell us
>>> about the forces favoring LPG.  See the last sentence of the abstract.
>>> They say that health of people is more important than health of global
>>> environment.   But there is at least one choice (TLUD stoves) that can
>>> offer both.
>>>
>>> It is unfortunate that there is not a major industry advocating for
>>> biomass stoves as there is for LPG, with Smith as an academic spokeperson.
>>> Certainly the GACC is not pro-biomass ----  it says it is technology and
>>> fuels neutral.
>>>
>>> More to say, but not right now.   Let's hear some other comments
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: [climate and stove] Not all fossil fuels are the same
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:02:55 -0800
>>> From: Kirk R. SMITH <edu>
>>>
>>> To counter the resistance in some quarters to substituting LPG and other
>>> clean fossil fuels for biomass cooking fuels used by the world’s poor.
>>> Full article can be downloaded from my website below/k.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Environmental Research Letters*, 2018, 13: 030201
>>>
>>>
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